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Isaac D Rainey




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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jul, 2013 2:39 pm    Post subject: Replica wheellocks?         Reply with quote

Where could I find a maker of replica wheellocks, I have been searching for a while and have not had much success.
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Gottfried P. Doerler




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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jul, 2013 4:12 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

the rifle shoppe offers some.
like this beauty http://www.therifleshoppe.com/catalog_pages/w...623%29.htm

the problem is, you get the kit and have to build it yourself. i personally dont think i could do it (and later even dare to fire it), but maybe you find a local gunsmith who can assemble it for a reasonable price.
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Matt Leiby




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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jul, 2013 5:06 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

http://piratefashions.com/ has some.
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Tyler Jordan





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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jul, 2013 7:33 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'd like to see some real, firing replicas., and as accurate as possible. I heard Uberti and Dixie Gun Works used to make a firing wheel-lock, but I can't find a thing on it now. Oak Arms in Bugaria is taking orders, but I suspect they will be quite expensive and who knows about historical accuracy.
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Ian Hutchison




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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jul, 2013 8:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Loyalist Arms is making one fairly cheap:

http://www.loyalistarms.freeservers.com/Wheellock.htm

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Isaac D Rainey




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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jul, 2013 10:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for the links guys, but more specifically does produce some of the earlier style wheellocks from about 1500-1580.
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Lin Robinson




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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jul, 2013 4:11 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Isaac D Rainey wrote:
Thanks for the links guys, but more specifically does produce some of the earlier style wheellocks from about 1500-1580.


What you are looking for is almost certainly going to require custom work. Production wheel-locks like the Loyalist Arms version are made in India and while they look good, they do not always function as we would like. As you are no doubt aware, the wheel-lock mechanism was pretty complicated for the time and somewhat delicate and that certainly holds true of the Indian versions which are available from a number of sources.

Lin Robinson

"The best thing in life is to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women." Conan the Barbarian, 1982


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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jul, 2013 1:56 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ian Hutchison wrote:
Loyalist Arms is making one fairly cheap:

http://www.loyalistarms.freeservers.com/Wheellock.htm


Pirate Fashions, who I had not heard of before this post, says they use Loyalist Arms parts for one of their pistols. It looks like they replaced the teak stock which comes on the L/A pistol with one they make out of walnut and used all the metal parts from the L/A gun. Aside from that I think it is the same pistol. They claim their gun is proof tested and, if so, they are doing it because those pistols come from India with no touch holes and therefore cannot have been proved.

Nice looking guns but I would be very cautious about firing one with ball. Blanks are probably going to be OK.

Lin Robinson

"The best thing in life is to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women." Conan the Barbarian, 1982
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Gottfried P. Doerler




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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jul, 2013 1:56 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

guess i know what you are looking for, im interested in the same.
but actually i dont know who makes replicas of these, all i know are from the early 17th cent. onwards.
so instead i`ll just post some photos i took of early wheellocks in the vienna arsenal. if you come to know some good dealer, pls pm me.



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Kalle Kylmänen





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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jul, 2013 6:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

An aquintance of mine has a pair of custom made reiter wheellocks. I don't have the gunsmiths name, but he was czech. The price for a such gun was about 800€ If I remember correctly. I can ask for my pal for a link if you're interested.

e: I sent him an email, I'll respond when I get the contact info


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Isaac D Rainey




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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jul, 2013 7:32 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I would be very interested, if you could get a hold of him that would be great.
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Kalle Kylmänen





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PostPosted: Mon 22 Jul, 2013 6:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Okay, I got some details,
The guns were made by Bolesław Maciaszczyk, his email is raszpla5@wp.pl
He doesn't have a website but he has a lot of videos on youtube http://www.youtube.com/user/bolek1964
He's an active member on the blackpowder forum http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/fusionbb.php pre-flintlock section.
My friend would recommend his product, but there's probably a queue of months. But I suppose that's just another recommendation when talking about custom work.
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