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Stefan Hanson




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PostPosted: Tue 19 Mar, 2013 4:36 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It is a joy to watch such an evolution as an armourer ! !!! Just keep on making that magic with the metal !

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Piotr H. Feret
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Jun, 2013 12:01 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I made little update on my website, few pieces was added.

At first the heat hardened and tempered full plate cuirass made from medium carboon steel, dated end of XIV c., begin of XV c.







Second is new version of Wallace Collection A69 bascinet, this time in mirror finish. The skull is welded from two pieces of 2 mm mild steel. The visor is raised on hot from one piece of 2 mm mild steel.







The full plate leg harness, fully made from medium carboon steel, heat hardened and tempered. The poleyn was raised to pointed shape.







More photos of these pieces you can find on my website.

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Daniel Wallace




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PostPosted: Sat 15 Jun, 2013 8:11 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm just scrolling through the post and i see the helms hammered out from a single sheet, that just talent and a monster of skill coming out of your shop and i enjoy seeing it!
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Piotr H. Feret
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PostPosted: Sun 16 Jun, 2013 11:29 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank's Daniel Happy Making a helmet with skull from a single sheet it's always a challange, but the final effect give a lot of satisfaction.
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PostPosted: Sun 16 Jun, 2013 1:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Great work! I prefer satin finish but I always had a penchant for this bascinet. Do you have a source for that flat visored bascinet you posted last time?
I saw that you brass gilded. It's rarely seen for there are so many sources for brass gilded pieces in armour. Do you recommend some brass parts in armour?
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Piotr H. Feret
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jun, 2013 12:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank you Julian.

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Do you have a source for that flat visored bascinet you posted last time?


Yes, in last week I put on my webiste two examples from italian iconography, where you can see such bascinet with flat and side mounted visor:
http://www.platener.eu/klappvisier7.html

There is no evidence how exactly such visor look like, so my version it's only a interpretation how it might look.

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It's rarely seen for there are so many sources for brass gilded pieces in armour. Do you recommend some brass parts in armour?


Yes there are many sources for gilded elements, especially in iconography from the begin of XV c. I recommend to brass gilded the elements which are on the top and no other element is rub over it and don't grind the surface. For examples all couters, poleyns, top plates from the shoulders defences, visors etc.

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Mark Griffin




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PostPosted: Tue 18 Jun, 2013 1:42 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

All very nice indeed. Is the rolled edge on the bottom off the c XIII helm based on anything in particular?

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Jun, 2013 12:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank you Mark.

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Is the rolled edge on the bottom off the c XIII helm based on anything in particular?


Yes, on my site, under the pot helmet you can find the example from XIII c.iconography, you can see there that the bottom edge seemed to be rolled:
http://www.platener.eu/helm%20garnczkowy4.html

Here is other example in better resolution:
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/4673/7961/

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Piotr H. Feret
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Nov, 2013 4:21 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Today I want to present you some new pieces which I made recently - the armour set based on two german knights effigies, Beringer von Berlichinge (1377) and Voit von Rieneck (1379):

The great helm fully made from 1,5 mm medium carboon steel, wear over the bascinet. Weight 3,1 kg.



The klappvisier bascinet based on helmet from Deutsches Historisches Museum:



The composite leg harness - sabatons with segmented greaves and anatomical cuisses:



The composite arm harness:



And the full cuirass with covered fauld, it have chains to mount the sword and great helm. Weight 8 kg.



More photos of above pieces and more news you can see on my website.

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Mark Griffin




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PostPosted: Sat 02 Nov, 2013 1:27 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Piotr, thats lovely work, you have captured the look of that era really well. A pleasure to examine!

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Foong Chen Hong




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PostPosted: Thu 07 Nov, 2013 7:59 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Your work is really nice, but one thing that's bothering me...

Aren't you put kinda way too much rivets on the great helms??

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Nov, 2013 12:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nope... Piotr's put exactly the right number of rivets on his helm... Have a look at this thread for images of some of the relevant originals...

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=20202
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Nov, 2013 2:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Tobias Capwell wrote:
Nope... Piotr's put exactly the right number of rivets on his helm... Have a look at this thread for images of some of the relevant originals...

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=20202

Oh, sorry. Didn't know about that.

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Mark Griffin




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PostPosted: Fri 08 Nov, 2013 1:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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Piotr's put exactly the right number of rivets on his helm...


and its important to note that the size of the rivet is very close as well. I say very close rather than exact as I doubt Piotr has done them by hand. I'm a bit of a rivet nerd and its nice to see proportionate ones used. Too often armourers can overlook this kind of thing and go for a bog standard commercially available chunky dome when its actually easy and pleasing to get right using something closer to the original.
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Piotr H. Feret
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Nov, 2013 3:12 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank you Tobias for help here Happy

Mark, the rivets here aren't handmade, there are 3 mm in diameter and the head is flatter version of snap head ones. I try to match them with the size of oryginals and I'm glad that you like it. I can also handmade the rivets heads, for example like in below arm harness all rivets heads were outer form:
http://www.platener.eu/nareczakiMG1.html

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Mar, 2014 2:32 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

After quite long silence I want to present some news which I have made:

Arm harness for the begin of XV c., fully made from medium carboon steel, heat hardened and tempered up to 38-42 HRC.



Second arm harness, also for the begin of XV c., couters are made from steel and brass gilded.



And in the end I want to present a first part of italian export armour set on which I'm currently hard working. The 'alla tedesca' leg harness, fully made from medium carboon steel. Cuisses heat hardened and tempered up to hardness 38-42 HRC. Upper leg harness inspired by italian export cuisses 'alla tedesca' from Philadelphia Museum of Art, c. 1465-70.





More photos on my website.

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Patryk Nieczarowski
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Apr, 2014 12:26 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

very nice stuff Piotr Happy )
http://www.artmajeur.com/en/artist/nieczar/collections
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Piotr H. Feret
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Apr, 2014 11:33 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank you Patryk Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 03 May, 2014 10:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I want to present a second part of italian export set. The plate arm harness with mitten gauntlets. Fully made from medium carbon steel, heat hardened and tempered up to 38-42 HRC. Mittens are inspired by gauntlets from Churburg armoury CH S23.







I also wish to inform that I take new orders again. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you are interested in my work.

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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jun, 2014 10:07 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

After very long months of work finally I had finished the italian export armour project. The last but not least was the cuirass with pauldrons. Fully made from medium carbon steel, all heat hardened and tempered up to hardness 40-42 HRC. Cuirass inspired by 'alla tedesca' cuirass from Museum im Prediger Schwäbisch Gmünd, but was changed into typical four pieces italian construction.











More detailed photos you can find on my website.

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