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Jack Savante





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PostPosted: Tue 06 Nov, 2012 6:12 am    Post subject: Sassanid/Sassanian/Pre Islamic Persian Swords & Byzantin         Reply with quote

Hi All,

I'm thinking of putting together a Sassanian sword like this one:

http://www.mouginsmusee.com/armoury/migrationperiod/big/7.jpg

I really haven't seen many reproductions because the renaissance of the sword that is going on seems to have a general emphasis on western (but not Byzantine) swords. That's fine, I like Western swords, but as my interest in the western sword has matured over time I've started to acquire an interest in the swords of the neighbours of the west.

So I'm really interested to see some Sassanian reproductions if anyone out there has made one/some.

I found this really interesting Italian company making a Byzantine reproduction sword:.

http://www.aresacademy.it/spade%20storiche.html

They're also making some really beautiful, what look like, dare I say it, Albion quality western swords. Hopefully my post gets them some sales because they look like company worth supporting.

I'm not sure about the other browsers but Google Chrome automatically translates their site to English. The Byzantine sword is in their 'Knight Line'.

I would be very interested to see reproduction Byzantine Swords from the myArmoury community also. I think there is enough evidence out there for us to get a distinct idea of what Byzantine swords might look like and handle, and think some of the designs would lend themselves to exquisite reproductions. For example this depiction:

http://www.lessing-photo.com/p3/150304/15030431.jpg
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Jack Savante





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PostPosted: Tue 06 Nov, 2012 6:21 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

http://www.aresacademy.it/spade%20storiche.htm

The Italian Company making Byzantine & Western Swords.

http://www.lessing-photo.com/p3/150304/15030431.jpg -

The Byzantine depiction of Archangel Michael with a beautiful Byzantine type XVI sword.

Sorry for the typo in the previous post, those links weren't clickable.
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Luka Borscak




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PostPosted: Tue 06 Nov, 2012 6:39 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

There was some talk about their swords here on myArmoury, but I don't think anyone both one of their swords to share impressions. Since it's an Italian company, their swords are not sharpened...
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Kai Lawson





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PostPosted: Tue 06 Nov, 2012 6:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Some of their swords look rather nice, it's a pity there doesn't seem to be anyone with experience with them to share impressions
"And they crossed swords."
--William Goldman, alias S. Morgenstern
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Nov, 2012 7:15 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That company is run by a forumite, Maurizio D'Angelo, but I don't know of many people who have seen them in person.

The website notes they're unsharpened (a la aDel Tin)

Happy

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Ruel A. Macaraeg





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PostPosted: Tue 06 Nov, 2012 7:47 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here are two later Sassanid swords in the Metropolitan Museum of Art:
http://www.forensicfashion.com/532SassanidKnightSword.html


http://ForensicFashion.com/CostumeStudies.html
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David Lewis Smith




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PostPosted: Wed 07 Nov, 2012 11:54 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sorry about the background in the photo:

That being noted I have this sword I bought in Afghanistan for some time now. At first I thought perhaps it was a Jian, but several have suggested that it is Sassanian


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Maurizio D'Angelo




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PostPosted: Thu 08 Nov, 2012 11:39 am    Post subject: are some links for explanations, even historical.         Reply with quote

Hi all,
There are 7 swords of that type around, 5 in Italy and 2 in Australia, you can contact in private to hear from them as they are, they all belong to groups "Byzantine", the edges is about 1.2 mm, and in some countries it is forbidden sharpening.
For the Byzantine sword, there are some links for explanations, even historical. There is a bibliography, it might be interesting to some of you.
I hope it might be useful.

Here are the links:
http://www.aresacademy.it/2-byzantine.html
http://www.aresacademy.it/1-byzantine.html

Regards
Maurizio

Ciao
Maurizio
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Jack Savante





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PostPosted: Fri 09 Nov, 2012 12:02 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks so much for the picture of the Afghani / Sassanian sword!

Beautiful!

Also thanks for the links Maurizio! I was thinking of buying and Albion for my next sword, but after seeing your beautiful 'Joshua' Byzantine sword I've decided it will definitely be one of those! The version with the antler grip and bronze wiring for sure!

What is the hilt furniture made of? Is it stainless or regular steel (prefer regular but stainless is fine too).

So glad to see someone embarking on the great undertaking of creating a Byzantine sword! What a triumph! Such innovation, and yet I am certain that you have made a faithful reproduction of the sword in the ikon. I had never looked so closely but the lines on the hilt do definitely look like wires receding into the grip, and they serve such an interesting purpose as you point out!
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Maurizio D'Angelo




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PostPosted: Fri 09 Nov, 2012 3:40 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mr. Jack Savante,
steel is a chromium-vanadium steel, hardened to 63-64 HRC, is not stainless steel.
For historical information we can continue here, it is better for business information in private here: info@aresacademy.it
I'll be happy to respond.
Maurizio

Ciao
Maurizio
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