I'm currently working on a 1390-ish harness for Battle of the Nations, so I've looked at a lot of bascinets over the past few months.

Here's an interesting reproduction -

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Can anyone identify the original, in museum or in image?

(I keep going back and forth between thinking this looks really cool, or really strange)

As an aside, who makes this bascinet?

Edit: This thread may prove useful http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=23857.

http://gdfb.com/hound-skull-bascinet-late-14t...p-536.html
GDFB sells them,
It seems to be a bad intepretation of this kind of visor http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewto...p;start=70 (look bottom of the page)

I agree that the face has a visored sugarloaf feel to it, and I'm hoping that someone familiar with effigies and manuscripts comes up with a reference for it. The GDFB folks sometimes do things a little strangely to keep production costs down, but to give them credit they do use historical references.

Now that I've seen these in person, I rather like it. Here one is, worn over top of a riveted coif so that I can get an idea of what they would look like / how they would protect and move with an aventail:

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Despite the temptations of the beak, I was not making ducklips for this awkward mirror photograph.

Here is a great Bascinet made by Buyans Armour in Ukraine

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Hal I posted this over on the archive: "Yeah a bad repo of some stuff you see in art."

http://manuscriptminiatures.com/static/miniat...al/5-9.jpg

Some more similar images here: http://manuscriptminiatures.com/search/?year=...ew=gallery

Just ditch the term sugarloaf for a minute. Period terms it is either a bascinet or a helm. My guess is bascinet. You do see some rounded top bascinets but typically not matched with this visor. I'd go with a 3/4 back point or centerpoint/conical top with this type.

The Hastings Effigy has similar types as does the Queen Mary Psalter.

RPM

hey JamesB, its a scaled down version of that old bassinet on ebay! the one that looked like the chicken beak

Thanks to hints and clues here and over at the Armor Archive, I believe I've found the original:

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Catalog #H24 in the Musee de l'Armee.

Bacinetto Italiano
Prove di marchio dei Missaglia - XV sec.
Parisi - Musee de l'Armee

One can see that the original was a great/grand bascinet with a flared neckline rather than an aventailed bascinet, but it's definitely not a sugarloaf.

While it does in fact seem to be a rather poor imitation of the helm provided, how does the visor stack up to this Romance of Alexander visor? It's clearly on a bacinet, not a great helm, and the only different feature I note is the Jaw line between the two.

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