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NOW I'm scared... (AKA: Odd weapons in manuscripts)
Hi everyone...
In the series of odd, obscure and down right wierd weapons, we today give you the... uhm. Well... Hopefully nobody knows what its called

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It orginates from a illustraded manuscript describing the life of St Edward the confessor, written sometime mid 13th century:

http://www.lib.cam.ac.uk/MSS/Ee.3.59/

Floio 31r, the landing of Harald Hardråde near York. (Upper right corner)


Yours
Elling
Well, actually, that is kind of interesting to me.... though I don't know what it would be called. :D
It´s just an example of the common inverted falchion with jingle-bells on.
Do you mean you have not seen one of these before?!?

By the way, note just how the pommel digs in to his hand. Must be very uncomfortable...
;) :lol:
Perhaps an artistic attempt at the "jawbone of an ass?"
Samson, in England, fighting the norwegians?
In that case, it would be a jawbone with a crossguard and pommel... There is a jawbone picture in the Mac. bible, though...

My theory is that this must be the work of a previous incarnation of the guys that does the Arms and Equipment guide for Dungeons and Dragons. Recognice the style. Very distinct.


Yours
Elling
What really surprises me is that no one mentioned his "Florida Vacation" hat :cool:
Behold the terrible axe of Harald Hardrada! Look at the faces of the vikings behind him. :lol:


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I like that weaponless character standing behind him, pushing him forward. There were political advisers back then as well as now.
Steve Fabert wrote:
I like that weaponless character standing behind him, pushing him forward. There were political advisers back then as well as now.


I'm sure it's his fault England isn't speaking norwegian now.
Well, big axes are a very traditional norwegian weapon. So it goes to figure that the king of the norwegians must have the bigest axe of all.
What worries me more is the fact that he is wearing a surcote that looks like a 70's kitchen curtain...

Kenneth Enroth wrote:
Steve Fabert wrote:
I like that weaponless character standing behind him, pushing him forward. There were political advisers back then as well as now.


I'm sure it's his fault England isn't speaking norwegian now.


Yea. The bastard...grumble...
If only they had waited until AFTER William invaded....

Yours
Elling
He's the 13th century version of Grima Wormtounge.
Kenneth Enroth wrote:
He's the 13th century version of Grima Wormtounge.


Or perhaps the head of the Norwegian equivalent of the CIA?
Seen it before: http://armourer.fromru.com/collections/falchions/index.html
Somebody ought to put up a mirror of that site in English... It's hard to find!

Anyway, I didn't realize the blade was on the inside.

...Actualy, now that I think about it, I'm not entirely convinced that it is. Look at the fuller -it seems closer to the inside than outside, to me. Now consider this picture...
[ Linked Image ] Looks like the king's smacking the knight upside the head with the spine of the blade.

It's the fuller that tells you where the blade is, and we've seen iconography of pepople holding their swords backwards (for one reason or anoter)... so I think it's actualy the lumpy side that's all sharp and pointy.
Heyguy's

Notice the guy in the forefront of the first picture look's like he is being pushed and cut .

Jeff
Elling Polden wrote:
Samson, in England, fighting the norwegians?
In that case, it would be a jawbone with a crossguard and pommel... There is a jawbone picture in the Mac. bible, though...

My theory is that this must be the work of a previous incarnation of the guys that does the Arms and Equipment guide for Dungeons and Dragons. Recognice the style. Very distinct.


Yours
Elling


Yes definitely out of context but who knows what other stuff the artist was working in there? Or maybe there was a guy at the battle named Samson or...
Only those of us with children will get this response:

Doesn't it look eerily like the Wiggle's Captain Feathersword...... ;)

For those who don't I have included pictures (you can even buy a feathersword of your very own!)


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Lloyd:

That is officially the creepiest thing I've ever seen.
Perhaps that first weapon is simply a hilted tentacle.
Just a few comments;

Alina, I TOTALLY agree with you :\ :wtf: !

Elling, Could it be serrated like this sword (this one reminds me of Dog Brown's cutlass in Cutthroat Island)? Also, it looks like there is something in the background of the illustration that matches the color of the "bumps" which is different from the sword's color. Perhaps the bumps are part of the edging on a banner or something instead of part of the weapon?

Cheers,
Steve Fabert wrote:
Kenneth Enroth wrote:
He's the 13th century version of Grima Wormtounge.


Or perhaps the head of the Norwegian equivalent of the CIA?



Nah. He's not mean enough.
During the 13th century, the norwegian king did actualy have a secret police. They where members of the kings court (hird), called Guests (Gjester). This not because they where the guests of the king, but because "they oft visit where they are not welcome", as the Kings mirror (1250 manuscript) states.
Their task was to search for enemies of the king. If they found one, it was their duty (not Right. Duty...) to kill him.
They recieved half the pay of a bodyguard retainer (Hirdman), but could loot the property of those they killed, with the exception of the gold, which whent to the king, and that they where not alowed to come back to get more. (I supposed this caused them to travel with lots of extra horses...)
They had their own standard in battle.
It was, of course, black....

I like to think of them as a combination of Army Rangers, the Gestapo, and the IRS. :D


Yours
Elling
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