Nice work. Great job!

'aint bad at all. I can see it being fun to model and uvw cleanly.
(ex-concept artist and 3d modeller in the industry here - till I got crippled by RSI...)

only things I'd say is that flattening out the bust slightly would be more accurate given maille really does even out the body's curves. But on the other hand, its still positively flat chested compared to the average videogame character, so, you're still innovative in not have a XX bust size with its own IK elements...

there's something a little odd on the surcoat, in that, although that form is pretty appropriate, it looks a bit off on a female figure, and comes out looking close to being a modern a-line dress slapped onto a woman in maille. I wonder if there's a way to perhaps emphasise the toughness of the character by some detailing in there that can make it feel more dated? Part of that might be the colour palette, as its a very vivid red just now. Everyone knows that medieval people only wore brown. (only joking. I know a reenactor who did proper moss dying in an iron cauldron, and ended up with a dayglo green dress that no-one would beleive was "right". she ended up overdying it with modern dye to darken it off a bit to stop the hassle.)
Perhaps, ironically, the solution there would be to go towards the women's civillian fashion of a sideless cut surcote with the wide arm holes? Or maybe the character's arms blazoned on the surcote. something to help say "this is not a dress" on viewing.
just little details to bring it to life.


oh, and a strap on the kettlehat?


most of that could be done with texturing in the model I'd suspect, or at most a small bit of geometry, depending on your tech specs.

but all in all, it's pretty damn well done.

Nathaniel C. wrote:

By the way for any of you other guys reading if you haven't played Mount & Blade: Warband you're missing possibly one of the most historically accurate and most enjoyable games ever made.

I can strongly reccommend not buying this awful, shocking, and thoroughly despicable computergame...
unless you want to lose your entire social life to becoming the marshal of your chosen realm and leading armies to defeat... as its absolutely brilliant fun.
(I'm not going to admit how many hours I've spent playing M&B and Warband. lets just say "too many", and that's without starting to mod the game, as I'm resisting doing... )

I did some redesigning - you can compare the new picture to the old one in the first post of this thread.
The surcoat is now armored in style of Visby coats of plate.
Maille chausses are now only partial, showing black turnshoes and off-white padded hosen.

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Very nice. I like the look of this surcoat a lot more. I would suggest one more change to the legs though. I don't think mail chausses like that would stay in place. If you want to show them like they are now, I suggest you show mail chausses (full, without a foot) with padded cuisses over them. In effect, the mail part would stick out from under the padded upper legs. Whereas now the padded part is sticking out from under the mail part. It looks almost the same, but makes a lot more sense IMHO.

Much better now as a coat of plates but I would add a few rivets in the upper chest area to suggest two large plates with rivets around the perimeter.

With a coat of plates I don't think one would armour around the waist and leave the upper chest uncovered by plates, and plates on the upper torso don't have any negative impact on mobility since the upper chest moves as a rigid unit as opposed to the waist that needs to be able to twist and flex to some degree.

Oh, apart from these suggestions the drawing looks much better now in my opinion.

Sander; I have chauses like these; they are riveted to a leather piece, which is in turn sewn to the padded breeches. This is however a "cheat" to simulate breeches on top of longer chauces. On the other hand, you do not need a double layer of mail on the thighs, so having chauses and hauberk overlap would be a bit redundandt.
Some more info here; http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=9278

Walther; I like the legs, but I think the COP is a bit back-to-fantacy, at least with the groin plates. It't is a nice way to show bust, though. ;)
A single row of standing plates around the waist would be more plausible for the 13th c tech level.
Alternately, she could just have the surcote, with long arm openings, and ties on the top.

I based the layout of coat of plates on reconstructions of coats from Visby. It might be off for 13th century, but it shouldn't be fantasy.

http://www.hoashantverk.se/hantverk/hoas_rust...front.html