| Author |
Message |
Jared Smith
|
 Posted: Mon 07 Jun, 2010 2:44 pm Post subject: |
 |
|
That is interesting Maurizio! I am more interested in it now as it sounds like it originates more at "End of Roman Empire" to Merovingian in origin, not Carolingian (late 7th century era.) The Frankish spearheads appear unusual. (Long, not really Roman in shape, different from more oval forms known to the North.)
Absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence!
|
|
  |
 |
Maurizio D'Angelo
|
| Posted: Mon 07 Jun, 2010 9:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Jared Smith wrote: | | That is interesting Maurizio! I am more interested in it now as it sounds like it originates more at "End of Roman Empire" to Merovingian in origin, not Carolingian (late 7th century era.) The Frankish spearheads appear unusual. (Long, not really Roman in shape, different from more oval forms known to the North.) |
Carolingian culture: emulation and innovation. 
The period is 400/600 A.D. (perhaps)
Yes, more merovingian. I know, like the bizantine spear, 600 AD, like german. Call "lancea"
While in the early first century allied troops borrow weapons from the Roman, in late imperial period we are witnessing the spread between the legionary troops now barbaric, elements typical of other peoples. Perhaps the greatest influences come from Germany and eastern borders.
The Frankish spearheads appear unusual. Why?
My doubts are about the swords do not appear in the sixth or seventh century.
 Attachment: 29.87 KB
Byzantine/German 6 century
Attachment: 130.9 KB
1/2 frankisch 6/7 century
3 frankisch 7 century
Ciao
Maurizio
|
|
 |
|
Paul Hansen
|
| Posted: Tue 08 Jun, 2010 10:57 am Post subject: Re: 6th century mail fragments |
|
|
| Dan Howard wrote: | | Bryce Felperin wrote: | | Another explanation might be that metal armor was too valuable to bury in the ground with its former owner |
How expensive was the jewellery that was found? Was armor more valuable than gold and gems? |
That sounds logical, but the fact remains that many migration age burials have some pretty essential equipment missing. For instance helmets seem much more rare than very high status swords... Let alone body armour.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jeroen Zuiderwijk
Industry Professional
|
| Posted: Fri 11 Jun, 2010 2:10 am Post subject: Re: 6th century mail fragments |
|
|
| Paul Hansen wrote: | | Dan Howard wrote: | | Bryce Felperin wrote: | | Another explanation might be that metal armor was too valuable to bury in the ground with its former owner |
How expensive was the jewellery that was found? Was armor more valuable than gold and gems? |
That sounds logical, but the fact remains that many migration age burials have some pretty essential equipment missing. For instance helmets seem
much more rare than very high status swords... Let alone body armour. |
Perhaps due to a difference in ownership? If a sword is a personal artifact, and armour belongs either to the army or family (handed down from generation to generation) etc. Swords, shields etc. are expendables, but armour can be repaired and remain in circulation much longer.
Jeroen Zuiderwijk
- Bronze age living history in the Netherlands
- Barbarian metalworking
- Museum photos
- Zip-file with information about saxes
|
|
 |
|
Paul Hansen
|
| Posted: Tue 15 Jun, 2010 12:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Could be, but then some grave do contain helmets or armour.
And evidence also suggests that at least some swords have been used by a few generations. Stories of swords being used by a number of generations also feature prominently in various sagas.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
|
All contents © Copyright 2003-2024 myArmoury.com — All rights reserved
Discussion forums powered by phpBB © The phpBB Group
Switch to the Basic Low-bandwidth Version of the forum
|
This is a