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PostPosted: Thu 03 Dec, 2009 1:53 am    Post subject: Medieval eating knives by Tods Stuff         Reply with quote

Hi Everybody,

Well the holiday season is pretty well on us again and so I have made some stocking fillers in the form of medieval eating knives.

These are based loosely on a series of knives sold in an Auction house recently and take elements from these knives from Holland and elements of London Knives. This to me seems reasonable in that the trading links between Holland and England were very strong and so there would be a natural cross fertilisation of styles and ideas.

The central knife with the dark wood handle has gone, the others are still for sale.

Left to right in GBP they are, 75, 65, 75, 85, 75, 80, 65, 85, 88 and shipping to the US will be £12, Europe will be £10 and UK will be £6

From left to right they are oxhorn, oxhorn, yew, bone. box, oxhorn, oxhorn, buffalo horn, buffalo horn.

For scale, the far right knife is 215mm/8 1/2" tip to tip.

For the record I also have all the usual bits and pieces in stock like rondels, bollock daggers, cooks sets, eating sets etc.

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Dec, 2009 8:04 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Knives look great, but the scabbards are amazing!

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Dec, 2009 12:02 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm fond (knives) of the first on the left and second from the right. Good work.

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Unfortuntatley I already own more knives than can be justified, but in some not so distant future I must add one of Tod's to the collection. I really like his style and choice of materials!
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Dec, 2009 12:34 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

leo...you are an artist...but i already knew that...:-)

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Dec, 2009 10:44 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hey Leo,

Would you consider posting some pictures of the other "bits and pieces" you have in stock?

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Dec, 2009 10:23 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi everybody,

I just couldn't resist so I decided to get myself a Christmas present and ordered the second from the left.

I can't wait to get it.

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Dec, 2009 12:20 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for your comments, always welcome and your support is very important especially now as I approach the really cold season in my workshop.

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Would you consider posting some pictures of the other "bits and pieces" you have in stock?


I will try to get some pictures up of some rondels, bollock daggers, eating sets, cooks knives etc that are currently available some time in the next day or so.

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Here are some pictures of a few pieces I have in stock, all prices in GBP. As of today the exchange rate for USD verses GBP is 1.63 ie 100GBP = 163USD.

Looking at 3 gen with the crossbow in the middle.

Maces from left to right are 65, 65, 45, 60

Crossbow is 300 and is 150lb draw weight

cooks set on left bottom left is 200

eating set top left is 125

penknife (just under string on left) is 34, eating knife below it is 72

eating set just below string on right is 110

eating knives to right of bow. Left one is 85, right one is 75

Daggers left to right are 210, 160, 230, 210, 260

folding knife/razor at bottom 70

Here a few more more bits as requested by Russ and I hope you like them.

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Dec, 2009 6:01 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Tod,
Great stuff there, as always. Love the ballock set (but I bet you knew that Happy ). That Scottish Dirk is nice as well.

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Dec, 2009 9:34 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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These are based loosely on a series of knives sold in an Auction house recently and take elements from these knives from Holland and elements of London Knives. This to me seems reasonable in that the trading links between Holland and England were very strong and so there would be a natural cross fertilisation of styles and ideas.


I find this more than likely. People often seem to forget the trading ties between various countries in the medieval era. In my collection, for example, I have a 15th century knife with a distinctly German look to it. The knife has a German side lug, yet was found in England.
Lovely pieces as always.
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Dec, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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Great stuff there, as always. Love the ballock set (but I bet you knew that ). That Scottish Dirk is nice as well.


Thanks.

I'm pleased with that dirk. It has been on my personal 'to do' list for a while and a client asked me to make a repro earlier this year and so I made a casting set up for it and so I have made two, this one and one for him. I like it and a good reminder of how lucky I am that my job is also my interest.

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I find this more than likely. People often seem to forget the trading ties between various countries in the medieval era. In my collection, for example, I have a 15th century knife with a distinctly German look to it. The knife has a German side lug, yet was found in England.


International trading and trade routes were extremely widespread throughout Europe probably since boats were invented and it was very well established by medieval times, so that tradesmen made for both domestic and export markets on a regular basis. This is bound carry an inflection of local styles and methods into what otherwise may be a piece destined for 1000 miles away (Milan to London for example). This means there has to be a blending to some degree. It also allows me to have some freedom as a creative artist in my own right as well as a reproducer.

Some items were specifically made to be exported, but of course people were also very widely travelled on occasion especially soldiers and merchants.

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I purchased the third knife from the right in the original series of pictures and it arrived today. This is the first example of Tod's work that I have held and have to say it is definately worth the price. You really begin to see what many other manufacturers miss in their reproductions. This knife has the subtle imperfections of a piece made by a craftsman without any sloppiness. It simply looks like a period knife that is new.
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Hey Tod-

Can you tell me a bit more about the folding knife as shown below? What is the date of the pieces that inspire it? Is it based on a particular found piece or a combination? What find places are common for these things? I've paid literally no attention to these types of knives.

Thank you in advance!


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I have no idea as to the answer to your question Nathan, however that folding knife highly resembles the type of a modern shaving blade look at this picture and consider the similiaites...


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Can you tell me a bit more about the folding knife as shown below? What is the date of the pieces that inspire it? Is it based on a particular found piece or a combination?


The knife is probably a razor, though not for certain. Spring back folders only came in the 1600's and prior to this a thumb lever was used or nothing at all to hold the blade open so the similarity of layout to a cut throat as shown above is incidental.

I have also made a few repros of razors based in one from the 1500's and there are ones basically the same you could go out and buy today; see below.

The brass handled folder Nathan has picked up on is from a book of mine and it lists only a credit, presumably of the photogropher or the owner but does not say its location so I assume private collection; but it does say early 14thC. I would guess Dutch or German, but I have this nagging thought that it is in a UK museum and was found in the Thames, but can't place why I think this.

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jan, 2010 11:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Check out the attached folding knife.

It's from Hermann Historica--

Hermann Historica wrote:
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deutsch, 14./15.Jhdt. Eisen. Schmale Rückenklinge mit stark verjüngter Spitze. Der Rücken in einen schmalen Steg mit Öse und anhängendem Ring auslaufend. Einfaches Griffstück aus Eisenblech. Gereinigter Bodenfund. Länge aufgeklappt 21 cm.



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