Posts: 555 Location: Germany
Wed 18 Nov, 2009 4:51 am
Jeff A. Arbogast wrote: |
Craig Peters wrote: | Jeff,
You might want to consider looking here: http://www.medievalrepro.com/Mail.htm. I can't say for certain, but the mail looks like it might be better quality, specifically with its inner to outer diameter ratio for rings, than the sample you've posted, and the price is similar. |
Hi Craig-
You win the prize! The sample of mail I posted is indeed from Peter Fuller of Medieval Reproductions. |
Ha ha, how funny. I would think it is the same type of maile GDFB offers (is it the 8mm ID?). Can take a picture of my aventil maile if interested. You wouldn´t need to buy from transatlantic to get that same type of maile. And whereever you buy it, get you a lot of spare rings and rivets. You WILL HAVE to customise it to get a good fit. Mine is just a poncho with arms and closed on the sides. I had to put in gores under the arms, will have to fill slits below hip level to widen the mesh there. Will tighten it around the waste and maybe widen it at the back of the shoulders. And will attach a standing collar in smaller rings. But then you will have something to last. Indeed it is not the strongest. The better made riveting won´t open, but I am sure you will bend some of the rings because of the flat cross section. 6mm maile is coming too in two varieties as flat and round rings. So maybe you may wont to consider it.
Posts: 555 Location: Germany
Wed 18 Nov, 2009 7:58 am
Hi, well the three to four sizes are standard nowadays. Maybe the long sleeves are tapered in my haubergeon in no tapering, but that is easy to achieve. For what I think about the tailoring you might want to have a look at the butted maile makers guied you can easily find by using google. This brings it down to the modifications required. To my knowledge even with the chest circumference in correct dimensions you can have problems with the tailoring. But that might be a personal thing. People are always very different in what they feel is a good fit.
Posts: 132
Wed 18 Nov, 2009 10:00 am
David Clark wrote: |
Craig Peters wrote: | David Clark wrote: | I have heard of and seen, in person, great maille from Icefalcon Armoury. If you go to the armourarchive.org he is having a stimulus sale through christmas. |
For one thing, the fact that the mail shirt fits the guy in the Icefalcon photos like a tent leads me to doubt just how accurate this assertion is. Notice how much more form fitting an actual, historic suit of mail is: http://www.myArmoury.com/view.html?features/pic_mail17.jpg |
Well, doubt all you want, but I fight against a fellow wearing one of his Lorica Hamatas and another fellow who wears one of his byrnies nearly every week (SCA). They fit them just fine (no rumpling from too much girth etc...) and they look great and have taken an awful lot of damage and held up wonderfully.
And as Felix said, you can't get that body hugging look with a maille shirt you pull over your head, such as those worn by the Saxons, Norse, etc... |
P.S.
I am sorry if I came off as overly aggressive or rude. :(
Posts: 2,167
Wed 18 Nov, 2009 11:07 am
David Clark wrote: |
P.S.
I am sorry if I came off as overly aggressive or rude. :( |
No problem Dave. The first thing that came to mind, when I read your earlier post, wasn't that it was aggressive or rude, but rather that it didn't seem to be directly relevant to my concern about Icefalcon's mail.
Posts: 3,637 Location: Maitland, NSW, Australia
Wed 18 Nov, 2009 12:47 pm
Felix R. wrote: |
Ha ha, how funny. I would think it is the same type of maile GDFB offers (is it the 8mm ID?). Can take a picture of my aventil maile if interested. You wouldn´t need to buy from transatlantic to get that same type of maile.. |
Pretty much all of these suppliers get their mail from the same makers in India/Pakistan. May as well go with the cheapest supplier since spending more money will not result in better mail.
Posts: 555 Location: Germany
Wed 18 Nov, 2009 1:13 pm
What I said. And even so Blaz Berlec. You can get the same here in Europe, without extraordinary shipping costs and without taxes.
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