antique sabre for fencing -- myArmoury.com

Gabriele Becattini · Posted: Mon 09 Nov, 2009 1:13 am Post subject: antique sabre for fencing

Hello, i need once again an help from antique sabre expert here at myArmoury,

i wish to buy my first antique sword, and it will be a sabre, now, my main goal is to learn more about the handling of

antique weapon, so i'm looking for something:

reasonably expensive, wich can be used for bouting (of course it must be unsharpened)

easy to obtain, better if in europe,

curved blade, better if an infantry weapon

ambidextrous hilt

my main goal is to remain inside a budget 0f 300-400 euro

i was inclined toward a spanish or swedish model, that looks like cheap and easy to find sabre,

every kind of suggestions is welcome, also where to buy it.

thanks for your help

gabriele

Jim Mearkle · Posted: Mon 09 Nov, 2009 3:46 am Post subject:

Unless you use it for drills without an opponent, it will get scratched and dented. Please consider getting a modern replica before you ruin an antique! These are a bit after my period of interest, but I know there are manufacturers that make such things, and I'm sure someone else will be along to give you suggestions shortly. I think WKC still makes some of their old models.

Paul Hansen · Posted: Mon 09 Nov, 2009 4:29 am Post subject:

Gabriele Becattini · Posted: Mon 09 Nov, 2009 4:44 am Post subject:

thanks for your imput,

i have always tought the same, but i have realized also that sometime buying an antique is less/equally expensive as buying a replica and from what i have learned there are many antique examples unsharpened. may be also that the historycal value of some mass produced trooper sword, is not so high?

your answers bring to me another question; it's possible to buy a decent replica with the same handling of an antique without paying hundreds of euro/dollars?

Jonathan Hopkins · Posted: Wed 11 Nov, 2009 7:24 am Post subject:

Unsharpened antiques will still have very thin edges that could be dangerous for sparring or other work with a partner. There are not many replicas of military sabers out there, and what does exist on the mass market is not going to be comparable to an antique. I am not aware of any purpose-built training swords that will accurately simulate a military saber. Maybe an antique would be good for solo work? Good luck in your search!

Jonathan

Jim Mearkle · Posted: Wed 11 Nov, 2009 10:42 am Post subject:

James the Just makes saber trainers like these ones:

I don't know how close they would handle to a real saber, but your training partner would thank you for the flexibility and blunt edges.[/url]

Sa'ar Nudel · Posted: Sat 14 Nov, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject:

A Hanwei Hutton Saber will do just right. You may find them in Europe. The blade is interchangeable. It is a relatively light saber and handles fine for military-style fencing.
http://www.hanweishop.com/proddetail.php?prod=SH2201

For a some more you can order a 19th century German-style saber (# SZ01) from Viktor Berbekucz in Hungary.
http://www.berbekuczviktor.hu/

Gabriele Becattini · Posted: Sat 14 Nov, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject:

Sa'ar,

do you have personally handled Berbekucz sabre?

could you tell me more, looks interesting, also do you have ever heard about chevalier d'auvergne in france?

Sa'ar Nudel · Posted: Sun 15 Nov, 2009 1:17 pm Post subject:

Gabriele Becattini · Posted: Sun 15 Nov, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject:

Sa'ar, thanks for the informations, i was thinking to order one of chevalier d'auvergne blade, but i have taken a look to the

berbecuckz sabre and look very nice, i have always tought the hutton sabre too light for be an accurate military sabre simulator, but looks like a viable option

Sa'ar Nudel · Posted: Mon 16 Nov, 2009 8:31 am Post subject:

The Hanwei Hutton is light indeed, as it is a dueling weapon, not a military one. However, it is not lighter than some of the late 19th century officers' sabers, and most early 1900's officers' sabers.