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Posts: 216 Location: Florida USA

Sun 18 Oct, 2009 6:51 pm

Nathan Robinson wrote:

G. Ghazarian wrote:

In fact, I have been thinking about ornate messers but I haven't come across any so far. If you know of any, I would appreciate it if you can post a picture here or email to me.

I posted some examples in the topic of yours: An embellished sword project

You mean the "Feudal Sword" and hunting sword / messer of Emperor Maximilian I ?

I wish I had more views and close-ups of both of them, specially the feudal. I'm dying to make that sword with that hilt as true as possible to the original rather than a close approximation. imagine all that filigree and fretwork in solid gold !!!!

I guess I'm going crazy already !

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Posts: 11,553 Location: San Francisco

Sun 18 Oct, 2009 7:02 pm

G. Ghazarian wrote:

You mean the "Feudal Sword" and hunting sword / messer of Emperor Maximilian I ?

Yep! They are beautiful.

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I wish I had more views and close-ups of both of them, specially the feudal. I'm dying to make that sword with that hilt as true as possible to the original rather than a close approximation. imagine all that filigree and fretwork in solid gold!!!!

Did you click the photos to see large versions? it's fairly detailed. I'd bet there are other photos available.

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Posts: 216 Location: Florida USA

Sun 18 Oct, 2009 7:11 pm

Nathan Robinson wrote:

Did you click the photos to see large versions? it's fairly detailed. I'd bet there are other photos available.

Yes I did. That's what got me so excited again !

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Posts: 113 Location: Colonie, NY

Sun 18 Oct, 2009 7:19 pm

I know you aren't ready for a rapier, but this one is ornate, yet structurally simple, and might make a good example for a first try.

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Sun 18 Oct, 2009 7:22 pm

Jim Mearkle wrote:

I know you aren't ready for a rapier, but this one is ornate, yet structurally simple, and might make a good example for a first try.

I love that piece!! It's one of my favorites, in fact. But it's not a rapier. :) Simply having a compound hilt does not make a sword a rapier. It's a spada da lato or "side sword".

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Posts: 216 Location: Florida USA

Sun 18 Oct, 2009 7:46 pm

Jim Mearkle wrote:

I know you aren't ready for a rapier, but this one is ornate, yet structurally simple, and might make a good example for a first try.

Wow, that's beautiful Jim, but unfortunately any work that requires the use of torches, welding etc is beyond me at the moment. I can always do it at my friend's machine shop but I rather not.

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Posts: 113 Location: Colonie, NY

Mon 19 Oct, 2009 3:51 am

Nathan Robinson wrote:

I love that piece!! It's one of my favorites, in fact. But it's not a rapier. :) Simply having a compound hilt does not make a sword a rapier. It's a spada da lato or "side sword".

I'm pretty sure my jaw bounced on the floor a few times when I saw it during my first visit to the Met.

You may be right, but if I recall correctly, the card next to it says "Early Italian Rapier, 1490."

Almost as satisfying was the look on a couple Viking aficionados when I showed them a picture of it. They had thought Renaissance knotwork was an anachronism.

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