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Hugh Fuller




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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan, 2004 10:00 am    Post subject: Patrick Barta's TEMPL swords         Reply with quote

I was just drooling over the Schiavona that Patrick made for Nathan Robinson. I cannot find it on his TEMPL website, but it is just gorgeous. My first sword that I ordered was from Patrick, his A02 Roman Riding Sword, and I was fortunate enough to have picked a true gentleman and a real winner for my first attempt, back there in September of 2001. The sword is a reproduction of one of the Nydam Bog finds from Denmark and it is done exceedingly well, including a quite handsome scabbard in the price. Indeed, I was so spoiled by that purchase that I have had to lower my sights a bit in dealing with others. Now, I see this gorgeous Schiavona, for which I would have absolutely no use, but a style for which I have always lusted. Nathan, do you mind my asking how much Patrck asked for it? As you know, his prices can jump around quite a bit. But, sir, I do truely envy you your sword! Now, I must sign off and clean the drool off of my keyboard. Big Grin
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan, 2004 10:10 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Patrick's site is : http://www.templ.net/
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PostPosted: Thu 29 Jan, 2004 8:39 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Blush I should have remembered to put that into the post. Thank you, Haider.

I was doing some checking on his A01 Roman Sword and the "sandwiched blade" that he is using in it is straight from Roman Military Equipment from the Punic Wars to the fall of the Empire, by Michael Bishop and JCN Coulston. They devote one of the final chapters to a discussion of Roman blade construction techniques over the years and the one that Patrick uses for this sword is straight out of that book. It is lovely!

On another point, have any of you seen one of his B06 rapiers with the gold and silver inlays on blackened steel rings, guard, and pommel? Does he really still sell it as shown for $650US + shipping? Does it include a scabbard? That item is unbelievably beautiful at that price and I am in lust after it, in full drool and tongue hanging out. Big Grin I just may have to order one.

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Chuck Perino




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PostPosted: Thu 29 Jan, 2004 10:11 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hugh or Nathan,
Can you guys describe what the ordering process with Patrick was like?

Wait time, payment, delivery, communication quality....

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu 29 Jan, 2004 10:21 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chuck Perino wrote:
Hugh or Nathan,
Can you guys describe what the ordering process with Patrick was like?

Wait time, payment, delivery, communication quality....

For my experience, the process was extremely good. Patrick Bárta is a true professional. Payment is in the form of a bank transfer (go to your bank and have them take care of it). Mr. Bárta gives all the info and makes that process simple. Despite a slight language gap, communication is smooth and timely. All is good.

Keep in mind, he's a custom maker. Despite having a catalog of items with pricing on his Web site, these things should serve more as a guide to future commissions than an indication that he'll just keep making the same pieces repeatedly. My understanding is that he will recreate items, but he's a fine artisan.. why not have him create something he's excited to make? After all, being a maker involves a passion. Harnessing that passion as a customer will yield an amazing and unique product.

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Jan, 2004 12:56 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nathan (or anyone else),\
obviously I am in awe of some of the work on Mr. Barta's site, but does he do strict reproductions of historical swords as well as pieces inspired by historical swords? Jeremy
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PostPosted: Thu 29 Jan, 2004 4:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jeremy V. Krause wrote:
Nathan (or anyone else),\
obviously I am in awe of some of the work on Mr. Barta's site, but does he do strict reproductions of historical swords as well as pieces inspired by historical swords? Jeremy


I commissioned a piece by Barta that is to be "typical of" a certain type and time period of sword. So that is more of an "inspired by" multiple historic pieces.

However, if you are talking about something a little more toward the fantasy end, I really couldn't say
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PostPosted: Thu 29 Jan, 2004 4:45 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nathan Bell wrote:
I commissioned a piece by Barta that is to be "typical of" a certain type and time period of sword. So that is more of an "inspired by" multiple historic pieces.

However, if you are talking about something a little more toward the fantasy end, I really couldn't say

Mine is also a combination of historical pieces rather than a specific example.

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Jan, 2004 5:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I would be looking for a reproduction or perhaps a "typical of" piece, for although I admire the work in some fantasy swords I don't see myself buying one. I wish that Mr. Barta had more examples of the 1040-1250 period to see. The one type XII is nice but way too flashy for my tastes. I like how Mr. Barta shows a familiarity with the process of inlay on both fittings and blade. Jeremy
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PostPosted: Thu 29 Jan, 2004 10:37 pm    Post subject: Templ Japanese swords         Reply with quote

Hey folks,
I notice that Patrick Barta also makes Japanese styled swords and that everything is hand made. They look absolutely wonderful, and I was wondering if anybody has had a chance to handle one or even owns one. If so, please post your thoughts.

All good things...
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PostPosted: Fri 30 Jan, 2004 5:36 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

How are his wait times, on average, from time of order to delivery?
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jul, 2004 1:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi,
I have just received my new sword from Patrick Barta and he was a great pleasure to do business with. His craftmanship is excellent. It is based on the Sutton Hoo sword and has a pattern welded blade and a real garnet cloisonne hilt.

I cannot recommend him highly enough.

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jul, 2004 1:20 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Paul Mortimer wrote:
Hi,
I have just received my new sword from Patrick Barta and he was a great pleasure to do business with. His craftmanship is excellent. It is based on the Sutton Hoo sword and has a pattern welded blade and a real garnet cloisonne hilt.


That is one of the finest reproductions I've ever seen created. Patrick Barta absolutely amazes me with each piece he completes. Please be so kind as to post many more photos of this sword, as I can't think of many other pieces more deserving of such attention.

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jul, 2004 2:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Agreed, we definitely need to see more pictures of that sword. It is a replica of the Sutton Hoo sword?
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jul, 2004 3:06 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Oh my!

More photos please.

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jul, 2004 3:14 pm    Post subject: Holy #%%!$$@         Reply with quote

Amazing!.........
I cant stop staring at it....
Ill be here a while...

Please post more pics.
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jul, 2004 3:42 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here is another picture showing more details of the blade. i'll try and take some of the sword an scabbard tomorrow.

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jul, 2004 3:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A close up of the pommel -- Patrick attention to detail can clearly be seen here. There are 47 garnets in the pommel.

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jul, 2004 3:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Paul,

Would you consider writing a full review of this sword for our reviews section? This sword is just too magnificent to let it slip into cyberspace.

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jul, 2004 4:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Patrick,
I will certainly try to do that and I am honoured that you have asked me.
Shall I contact you off list to get details of how to approach the review? I am a little new here.

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