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PostPosted: Wed 01 Jul, 2009 7:47 pm    Post subject: G18f by ElJay Erickson         Reply with quote

G18f Kelvingrove, Art Gallery and Museum Glasgow 1911.29.fx

Thanks ElJay for yet another stunning beauty!

Made by our forum member ElJay Erickson....This tang button is an extra that ElJay made for me that is threaded for 1/4 x 28 the original is 1/4 x 20 and pretty...







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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jul, 2009 2:02 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

WOW!!!
That is stunning, can you tell us about the blade as well?

I am on his waiting list and probably only around 6 months to go?

Cheers

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jul, 2009 8:03 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The quality of craftsmanship on your recent acquisitions, BS, are -- as your
last name certainly describes -- sweeeeeeet. And, most likely, the historical
significance of reproducing a certain type isn't lost on enthusiasts of basket
hilted swords ...

But with that said, and with an apology for my ignorance in hand, after awhile --
all patterns and designs aside -- isn't there a certain redundancy here ?

I certainly have not studied the type, and I know this can seem insulting, but
that was my second thought after marking the excellent and beautiful work
being shown ...
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jul, 2009 9:07 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is one gorgeous piece of metal! I'm curious...the screws...what are they for? They look totally out of place to me. Granted, I don't know much about baskethilts but they just seem odd to me.
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jul, 2009 9:08 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nice pieces. Complex!

Tim Lison wrote:
That is one gorgeous piece of metal! I'm curious...the screws...what are they for? They look totally out of place to me. Granted, I don't know much about baskethilts but they just seem odd to me.


The screws allow the forward guards to be removed.

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jul, 2009 12:36 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Another fabulous Eljay Hilt - one among many others.
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Jul, 2009 11:30 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Okayyyy, in order to continue being a pest ... B-)

I've had a couple baskethilted swords in the past, not as beautiful as these, and
at one time or another was at a loss with regards to cleaning and preserving the
finish of the baskets, soooo ...

Is there any special way you clean and preserve the baskets ? any special ritual
you might prefer ?

A curious mind would like to know ...
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The cleaning and maintenance of a basket-hilt is the same as any other Euro sword. Keep it clean and dry. If you get the oils of your hands on it, then wipe it off. If patina develops, clean it using any one of a number of methods explained in the article below. If you live in a humid climate, you can coat the parts with a thin layer of oil. etc. etc.


Care and Maintenance of the Modern Replica

An article by Patrick Kelly

It really isn't complicated to care for these things. People in our hobby often make it much more complicated than it needs to be. It's the same as maintaining any other tool. No rituals required.

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Jul, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nathan Robinson wrote:
Nice pieces. Complex!

Tim Lison wrote:
That is one gorgeous piece of metal! I'm curious...the screws...what are they for? They look totally out of place to me. Granted, I don't know much about baskethilts but they just seem odd to me.


The screws allow the forward guards to be removed.


Okay. Are screws like that historically correct or are they a modern addition?
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Jul, 2009 5:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The screws are historically correct. Happy
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Jul, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jonathan Hopkins wrote:
The screws are historically correct. Happy


Yep. What he said. Happy Baskets classified by Mazansky as G18 have those screwed-on forward guards in many cases.

And some other basket hilt types routinely had screws that held the basket to the pommel. So screws can be correct in the right places on the right forms. Happy

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jul, 2009 1:34 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Beautiful sword. I would love to own one some day....
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Faramir son of Denethor

Words to live by. (Yes, I know he's not a real person)
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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jul, 2009 8:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Quote:
It really isn't complicated to care for these things. People in our hobby often make it much
more complicated than it needs to be. It's the same as maintaining any other tool. No rituals
required.


Well, I'd think some people would develop or use slightly different methods, and maybe
discover a formula or pattern -- or little tool or whatever -- that produced the best results
possible, within reason. These baskets ARE pretty complicated in design, and treating
each twist, turn, corner, and angle probably isn't like maintaining just any other tool ...
I'd think.
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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jul, 2009 8:32 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for the info about the screws. Maybe I'm not used to seeing them and the basket is still gorgeous, but the screws still look off to me. Perhaps this is why I enjoy seeing *other* people's gorgeous baskethilts! I certainly do appreciate the craftsmanship of this one.

Edit: Okay, I went back and looked again at the screws and I think what I don't like about them is that they look machined and the rest of the basket is cleary handmade. Still an awe inspiring piece!
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