Baron and Regent arrive............ -- myArmoury.com

Timothy Gulics · Posted: Tue 22 Jun, 2004 8:57 am Post subject:

Yes, pics are definitely in order. One can never get too much of a good thing. Wink

Patrick Kelly · Posted: Tue 22 Jun, 2004 9:10 am Post subject:

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Markus Haider · Posted: Tue 22 Jun, 2004 10:33 am Post subject:

Timothy Gulics · Posted: Tue 22 Jun, 2004 12:10 pm Post subject:

Jeremy V. Krause · Posted: Tue 22 Jun, 2004 12:26 pm Post subject:

Hello Patrick,
As it seems that you and I have very simitar tastes as far as historical time periods go- I have a question about the Baron- suspecting that you probably have more knowledge of historical blades than I- so here it goes.
I do love the design of the Baron and would consider purchasing one- I have one major concern however. I am aware of no swords of the high middle ages with engraved designs in pommel or cross so is the cross potent in the pommel historically accurate? I see only inlays in historical swords. Am I missing something? Thanks, Jeremy

Chad Arnow · myArmoury Team

Markus Haider · Posted: Tue 22 Jun, 2004 1:18 pm Post subject:

Patrick Kelly · Posted: Tue 22 Jun, 2004 1:46 pm Post subject:

Timothy,

Have you actually handled thr Regent? If so you must have very large hands. My hands are on the larger size, and there is room to spare with both of them on the grip. I like the grip quite a bit. I find it to be very stylish, and I think itadds a lot of detail to the sword.

The Viceroy is also one that I'm eagerly waiting on. It's look was inspired by a smaller single handed sword that Peter made, now owned by Harlan Hastings. I remember telling Peter that the sword would look great if grown into a larger H&H. Later that evening Peter produced his drawings for just such a sword. Exciting stuff.

Patrick Kelly · Posted: Tue 22 Jun, 2004 1:53 pm Post subject:

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Jeremy V. Krause · Posted: Tue 22 Jun, 2004 4:41 pm Post subject:

Thank you Patrick and Peter for your prompt replies,
I am well aware of inlayed and enameled designs in swords of the period in question, well my period of question that is (1050-1300) Wink

I guess my thinking on the matter was that while inlay and enameling would be a viable option for an accurate reproduction sword of the period, plain engraving on cross or pommel would not. If I were to purchase a Baron I would, at this point in my understanding of period swords, want a copper or silver inlay to be placed in the cross potent. If engravings with no inlay or enamel are historically accurate please tell me as this would broaden my knowledge . I have a nice A&A custom of the type XIII war sword found in the Thames, (to lazy to pull out my Records and refer to the specific) but I have a copper inlay in the pommel. Patrick, I completely agree that inlays would be a wonderful option in Albion swords and would REALLY raise that bar of excellence even higher. I commend you on your fantastic collection! Again I thank you both for your input and please continue to educate!

Gabriel Lebec · myArmoury Team

That's actually very funny T. Gulics, because the Regent has one of my favorite grip designs of any Euro blade I've ever seen. Well, the custom versions of that sword done by P.J. and E.S. before Albion developed the Regent were slightly nicer IMHO, but they were custom after all.

Also, that particular sword is my favorite European design and I was ecstatic to learn that Albion had created a production version. However, and again somewhat amusingly, I actually do NOT like the fact that they made it hollow ground (MY personal turn-off Wink

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I still intend on buying one eventually. Not for a while, though...

Anyway, thought you might find that amusing. I guess it's just a case of randomly opposite aesthetics regarding a specific sword... Happy

Joe Fults · Posted: Tue 22 Jun, 2004 6:59 pm Post subject:

Chad Arnow · myArmoury Team

Peter Johnsson · Industry Professional

Some more examples of pommel decoration.
First one is a bronze pommel exhibited in the National Museum of Denmark.
Second is from Piacenza, Museo Civico (an interesesting warsword with fingerring and XIX blade. Sadly the blade is broken.)

My impression is that when a decoration is punched into the pomel as part of forging, you will not always see an inlay in the mark. Nor is designs cut into cast pommels always inlayed. When the symbol is cut with an engraver it is usually inlayed, but I would not be prepared to say that it is always so. Cannot say for certain.
If you look at the cross potent in the Baron pommel as punched it could be left as it is. If you prefer to see it as an imitation of an engraved cross, you´d perhaps want to have it inlayed.
I do not know how possible that is and what the cost would be. Something for the drow elves at Albion to ansver...

Personally I think it could be used both ways. I intentionally cut the desgn pretty bold and deep to allow it to look like a hot punched mark.

Jeremy V. Krause · Posted: Wed 23 Jun, 2004 5:48 am Post subject:

Thanks Peter,
This is cool- and contributes to my knowledge base. I have the same question of the historical authenticity of non-inlayed punched or engraved designs or words on blades of the high middle ages. I know this was done latter, but all blade ornamentation I can think of in Records (c. 1050-1300) show inlay. I apologize for taking attention away from the origonal post. Happy

Lee O'Hagan · Posted: Wed 23 Jun, 2004 8:18 am Post subject:

Congrat's Patrick,
Two fine preties in one go,lucky guy,
Looking forward to the full reveiw,
Good stuff Albion, Cool