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Patryk Nieczarowski
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PostPosted: Thu 12 Mar, 2009 8:05 am    Post subject: Raised norman helmet in stock.         Reply with quote

Hello

I've in stock result of some my experiment.
I wished to make some conical-shape helmet (I based on some Shach figure from the half of 12th. cen....so it's some stylization of "norman" helmet) in one piece but with similar thickness of whole helmet's bowl. .
In this case is about 2.5 mm (+ -) of the bowl and about 3mm of the nasal. The hook is rivated to the nasal.

Helmet's parameters :
"black" construction steel - the material
21 cm - high
23x21 - diameters inside (without leather interior)
69 cm - inside circumference
7 cm - high of the nasal
the wight is about 2.5 KG
there's leather interior with the y-shaped straps (the leather 2.5 mm)

The helmet was made by "forging inside" and than by raising. However the details of the material's measurments I'll keep only for me Happy .

Pictures of the helmet here:

http://photofile.name/users/nieczar/2547398/8...nImageLink

the price 500 Euro (with the postage in EU)



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Matthew Stagmer
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PostPosted: Sat 14 Mar, 2009 12:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

You got some good shape in the helm. Nice hot work. I prefer to see a center crease in the nasal though.
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Patryk Nieczarowski
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PostPosted: Sat 14 Mar, 2009 3:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

hello

thank You Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 14 Mar, 2009 4:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

more ventilation on the liner as well as less 'points' at the crown will help comfort. that is, round all the edges and points of the leather
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Patryk Nieczarowski
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PostPosted: Sun 15 Mar, 2009 3:14 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm not quite understand what You mean (my horroble Eanglish Sad )

do You mean "the points" - the holes for the linear ? ...there're to many of the holes in Your opinion or maybe not enough ?
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PostPosted: Sun 15 Mar, 2009 2:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Patryk Nieczarowski wrote:
I'm not quite understand what You mean (my horroble Eanglish Sad )

do You mean "the points" - the holes for the linear ? ...there're to many of the holes in Your opinion or maybe not enough ?


Not sure but I think he means that the edges of the leather liner and the leather used to attach the liner to the helm should have rounded corners to make it more comfortable to wear as opposed to 90 degree corners.

A padded coif under the helm might make this unnecessary or one wouldn't be able to feel the difference between rounded or square corners ? ( Just guessing: Hope this helps anyway ).

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Mar, 2009 2:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Looks nice. Am I correct in guessing that the hook on the end of the nasal is to hook the ventail over?
If so, are there any historical examples with this feature?
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Patryk Nieczarowski
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PostPosted: Mon 16 Mar, 2009 4:28 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

"Not sure but I think he means that the edges of the leather liner and the leather used to attach the liner to the helm should have rounded corners to make it more comfortable to wear as opposed to 90 degree corners. "

...och, I see Happy ....but it's really detail Happy ....I know so many reenactors (my friends) they use this kind of liner inside the helmets ...and they fight in these helmets ( and in Poland there's only one rule for fighting : head-shoots,head-shoots and one more time head-shoots :^) ) ...everything's working very vell
...and we must remember this kind the helmet was used on the mail-hood not stright on the head (so the hook of the nasal )

Dan, I must to say most of exemples (oryginal) helmet in this type dating 11-12th. cen. have the remains of the hook and some exemples are with hook
....I'm really surprised You ask me about it Confused ....see the pictures below



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Patryk Nieczarowski
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Mar, 2009 6:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

the helmet's sold
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