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Olof Nilsson
Location: Sweden Joined: 26 Apr 2004
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 Posted: Wed 12 May, 2004 12:12 am Post subject: Looking for info on a Norwegian blade m/1701 |
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Hello.
Does anyone here know anything about a Norwegian military sword/rapier? The model is 1701.
I’m trying to make a reproduction from a badly abused original, the blade is heavily rusted some incompetent person sandblasted it. Parts of the hilt are missing.
What I’m looking for is total weight and balance, pictures of the hilt would be greatly appreciated.
I’ve searched the net for info about this model with no luck.. Getting information on the Swedish m/1685, which I’m also working on, were easy compared to this blade.
T.I.A
//Olof Nilsson
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E. Larsen
Location: Trondheim, Norway Joined: 09 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Wed 09 Jun, 2004 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Heisan Olof!
Kan i alle fall hjelpe deg med maal og tegninger, spec. osv på dette vaapenet.
Dette er 'standard' sidebevepning for Christiansteen Artillerie Compagnie anno 1718.
Mod 1701 var den aller foerste kaarde/vãrje med et feste som var standardisert og modellfestet. Klingene kunne variere en del. Noen av klingene som kom til Norge var produsert av Vira i Sverige, og var kjøpt gjennom 'straamenn' i Tyskland, fraktet til Danmark, montert med riktig feste og tatt i bruk av den Dansk/Norske arme og brukt mot Svenskene...
Med vennlig hilsen
Christiansteen Artillerie Compagnie
Anno 1718
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Scott Bubar
Location: New England Joined: 21 Aug 2003
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Any chance of an image on this one?
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Olof Nilsson
Location: Sweden Joined: 26 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat 12 Jun, 2004 12:34 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info! 
Do you have any kind of picture or drawing you cold post?
Selling weapons to the enemy during wartime seems a bit stupid.. But on the other hand, common sense and logic has never been associated with war and politics. 
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E. Larsen
Location: Trondheim, Norway Joined: 09 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Sat 12 Jun, 2004 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Olof Nilsson wrote: | Thanks for the info!
Do you have any kind of picture or drawing you cold post?
Selling weapons to the enemy during wartime seems a bit stupid.. But on the other hand, common sense and logic has never been associated with war and politics. |
 Well, the blades were bought through dealers in Germany, so the Swedish swordsmiths had clean hands. 
I'll post a piceture of the 1701 for now, and drawings with spec. later.
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The sword is the M1701 soldatkorde, used in both the Danish and the then established Norwegian regular army. Most of the edged weapons in Denmark/Norway were iron monted until the 1740's [ Download ]
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Olof Nilsson
Location: Sweden Joined: 26 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue 15 Jun, 2004 4:52 am Post subject: |
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The blade in your image differs a bit from the original I have, my blade have short fuller and have a rounded cross section.
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A badly abused original Norwegian m1701 military rapier [ Download ]
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E. Larsen
Location: Trondheim, Norway Joined: 09 Jun 2004
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| Olof Nilsson wrote: | | The blade in your image differs a bit from the original I have, my blade have short fuller and have a rounded cross section. |
I'm not surprised at all.
It was common practice to use whatever suitable blade they had in stock, and the only 'standard' on these swords are the grip. It's not uncommon to find single-edged weapons as well. They used to 'recycle' usable blades instead of discarding them. You will also find blades made in Norway, Denmark, Germany, and ironically made in Sweden.
;-)
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This is a standard topic