Groningen helmet by me -- myArmoury.com

Patryk Nieczarowski · Industry Professional

Hello

I'm new member of Industry Professionals and this is my premier post here.
Few months ago I finished special reconstruction of very special helmet (for me ) - spiky helmet from Groningen from 5-6th. cen.

I tryed to build all helmet (exept forging steel plates from bars....I used 1,5 mm steel plates (DC 1). )only by as primitive method as it's possible.
Some tools and methods I used has historical sources and some was my own invention. I know maybe not all is exactly like form 5-6th. cen. but it wasn't my cause.

It's my private experiment so, I changed some parameters of the helmet ...but just little bit.

I made it with cooperation of Poul Mortimer - he helped me always when I needed. Thanx Poul.

Mybe this helmet isn't "a piece of the Art " but I'm very proud of it

I'm interested waht's Your opinion about my work ....be as hard as it's nesesery Big Grin

link to "Groningen story" here:

http://photofile.name/users/nieczar/3574457/

Michal Plezia · Industry Professional

It is a nice piece.Congrats!

Paul Mortimer · Posted: Mon 12 Jan, 2009 12:58 pm Post subject:

Hi Patryck,
It is a brilliant reproduction (the first I think) of a really important helmet.

Well done.

Paul

M. Eversberg II · Posted: Mon 12 Jan, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject:

I did a google search for "Groningen helmet", but the only result that looks like it might have been useful was on Roman Army Talk, which apparently has had its account suspended. What's the history of this kind of helm?

Good work, as well.

M.

A.A. Boskaljon · Posted: Mon 12 Jan, 2009 4:24 pm Post subject:

Just for the information, Groningen is a city and an area in the Netherlands Happy

Does anyone know iDutch Groningen?

Henrik Zoltan Toth · Posted: Tue 13 Jan, 2009 3:54 am Post subject:

Hello!

Very nice!! (I love your forge, cool!! ) Is this a kind of alanian helmet from the 4-5th Century AC?

Zoltán

Patryk Nieczarowski · Industry Professional

hello

I think the best person for this kind of the question is Poul ....he's the specialist ...I just made the helmet what is very interesting in my opinion

here's picture of oryginal

Bill Love · Posted: Tue 13 Jan, 2009 10:25 am Post subject: Groningen Helmet

That's more than a helmet, sir-it's a work of art!

M. Eversberg II · Posted: Tue 13 Jan, 2009 11:05 am Post subject:

Nice original. Is that the only one like it?

Also, Bill, what movie is your avatar from? It seems so familiar...

M.

Patryk Nieczarowski · Industry Professional

hello

thanx everyones for aprobate Happy

as I know there's one more spiky helmet of the same period from Bremen in Germany ...that all what I know ,as I said I'm not specialist in this case Sad

picture below

A.A. Boskaljon · Posted: Tue 13 Jan, 2009 11:55 am Post subject:

Bill Love · Posted: Tue 13 Jan, 2009 3:03 pm Post subject: Avatar

M.,
It's from the last few minutes of the first Narnia movie, The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe-
Bill

Paul Mortimer · Posted: Wed 14 Jan, 2009 10:25 am Post subject:

Both helmets are river bank finds with little context -- Mahand Vogt - who wrote the excellent book, Spangenhelme, believes that they are 5th to 6th century. One publication, 'Kings of the North Sea' (the catalogue of a travelling exhibition, 2000) puts the Groningen at 8th century - but it is possibly a typo. Certainly both helms have manufacturing techniques and stylistic attributes that seem to belong to the earlier period.

Perhaps we can convince Patryck that he should make the Brehmen helmet, too?

Paul

Patryk Nieczarowski · Industry Professional

lovely idea Happy

....but only as oficial order ....when I think about making so many spiky rivets again WTF?!

I've few others my own projects for the helmet to do Happy