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William Goodwin




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PostPosted: Mon 18 Aug, 2008 9:31 am    Post subject: Wonderful original 17th c. sword         Reply with quote

just saw this in a newsletter from Garth Vincent Antiques.....

http://www.guns.uk.com/store/shop/shop.php?action=full&id=238
very, very nice original.

Not sure if I'd classify it as a "mortuary "hilt though....




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PostPosted: Mon 18 Aug, 2008 10:22 am    Post subject: Re: Wonderful original 17th c. sword         Reply with quote

Thats the sword from the HH auction earlier this summer. Now I know who beat me! It was one of the nicest swords in the auction. although mid 17th c. I wouldn't call it an English Mortuary though, it was listed as German or Flemish by the auctioneer. once again the 50% dealer markup Cry looks totally original and note the fluted (rather than spiral) grip, really nicely done plates, the nice fluting on the main bars. very nice sword that one, it has traces of gilt on the plates too. tr


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PostPosted: Mon 18 Aug, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This type is seen in the last chapter of Mazansky's "British Basket Hilted Swords", classified as "hilts based on pierced side rings", as distinct from mortuary hilts. These are both nice examples, I am dying to see one from multiple angles.
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Aug, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Justin King wrote:
This type is seen in the last chapter of Mazansky's "British Basket Hilted Swords", classified as "hilts based on pierced side rings", as distinct from mortuary hilts. These are both nice examples, I am dying to see one from multiple angles.


Yes, Justin

Once I got home from work, I went straight for my copy of Mazansky to look this up......

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Aug, 2008 7:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Justin King wrote:
This type is seen in the last chapter of Mazansky's "British Basket Hilted Swords", classified as "hilts based on pierced side rings", as distinct from mortuary hilts. These are both nice examples, I am dying to see one from multiple angles.


For a couple more views of this sword, go to the end of this thread - http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=13795
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Aug, 2008 8:04 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for the pointer, Roger. I have a fascination with these hilts, if I ever get to a point where I can weld compound hilts I hope to make one of these.
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Aug, 2008 12:04 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I thought Mortuary swords were typically backswords? Or is my mind fogged from looking at the terminal too long today?
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Aug, 2008 12:09 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chris Arrington wrote:
I thought Mortuary swords were typically backswords? Or is my mind fogged from looking at the terminal too long today?


mortuary hilts were fitted with single and double edged blades.



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PostPosted: Tue 19 Aug, 2008 1:42 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

mortuary with a single edge / back-sword blade...




mortuary with a double edge blade...


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Aug, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

WOW! that is a beutiful original piece!

I love the two simple swirls in the basket. and if I was to own it I would never clean/remove the antiqued tarnish. I love that look. Happy

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