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Ken Berry




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PostPosted: Fri 15 Aug, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: Albion Talhoffer         Reply with quote

The information on this site has helped me to make my decision on my first sword purchase.
Initially I was looking at the windlass 15th C hand and a half sword but after reading through many of the posts and reviews here on myArmoury, I decided to go with an Albion Talhoffer instead. I really wanted a good piece to coincide with my study of German Longsword (solo practice and test cutting only), and the Talhoffer seemed to fit the time period I was going for, has good handling characteristics (according to the myArmoury review) and was flat out just nice to look at. Additionally being one of their lower priced swords at least came close(r) to my budget.
I almost went with the Mercenary ...but ...just wanted that longer blade I guess. I was mulling it all over when I learned two things...again through the site here...that Albion was raising their prices and would work out payment plans. That pushed me over the edge and I went ahead and called and ordered a Talhoffer. Having now made a couple of payments I am eagerly anticipating the day it will be paid off and of course the day it arrives. All I have to do now is fight the urge to pay the balance with plastic and be patient. I guess I could start donating blood to earn a few extra bucks to put towards payments...just kidding.
Anyway just thought I would share my "Albion" story.
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Brian K.
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Aug, 2008 9:39 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Which type of grip did you go with? Tapered, waisted, or waisted with half-wire wrap?

Beautiful sword, and congrats!

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Ken Berry




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PostPosted: Fri 15 Aug, 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I wasn't able to decide which grip to go with initially, but I am leaning toward waisted, can't afford the extra for the half wire wrap but... it would be nice.
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P. Cha




PostPosted: Fri 15 Aug, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ah yes, I do love those slender XVa blades. At the price hike, I was contemplating the agincourt or crecy. I went with the crecy because I already had a XVa and no XVI of any sort yet...but man I do love how those blades look.
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Jeremiah Swanger




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PostPosted: Sat 16 Aug, 2008 12:14 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ken Berry wrote:
I wasn't able to decide which grip to go with initially, but I am leaning toward waisted, can't afford the extra for the half wire wrap but... it would be nice.


Hi, Ken

Having visited Albion and handled much of their lineup, I would strongly suggest you take a look at the non-waisted grip for this particular model.

Don't get me wrong-- Albion's swords are second-to-none, and you will certainly not be disappointed with this sword, no matter what configuration you order it in. With a longer blade and grip, the Talhoffer is definitely oriented for two-handed use. Thus, I would suggest the standard grip.

Of course, preferences differ between individuals. See if you can hook of with a current Talhoffer owner and see what you think!

"Rhaegar fought nobly.
Rhaegar fought valiantly.
Rhaegar fought honorably.
And Rhaegar died."

- G.R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire
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Ken Berry




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PostPosted: Sat 16 Aug, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

From your post I would infer that you are suggesting that the waisted grip is only a one handed grip. Is that true? I know that at least some of the Albion hand and a half swords come standard with a waisted grip, like the Ringeck. I was under the impression that a waisted grip was just a different configuration and could be used one or two handed on this sword. If that is an incorrect assumption on my part someone please let me know.
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Jonathan Eells





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PostPosted: Sat 16 Aug, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: Don't donate blood.         Reply with quote

Donate plasma instead. You get paid more, and the snacks are better. Happy

You're going to love your sword. Well done.
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Aug, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ken Berry wrote:
From your post I would infer that you are suggesting that the waisted grip is only a one handed grip. Is that true? I know that at least some of the Albion hand and a half swords come standard with a waisted grip, like the Ringeck. I was under the impression that a waisted grip was just a different configuration and could be used one or two handed on this sword. If that is an incorrect assumption on my part someone please let me know.


Hi Ken,

First let me congratulate you. You've made a great decision! Secondly, I wanted to say that a waisted grip doesn't in itself designate single handed usage. The Ringeck and the Fiore are both waisted, hand and a half swords used in two handed long sword techniques. One is fitted with a wheel pommel and the other with a scent stopper pattern. It just depends on which you like better. As an aside, have you looked at the Munich with the waisted, half wire grip in the reviews? Great looking sword!

Congrats!
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Adam S.





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PostPosted: Sat 16 Aug, 2008 9:54 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have a Ringeck and love it. I think the Tolhoffer will treat you very well indeed. I must say I like the authority that these blades (the XVa2) convey. The XVa1s (Castellan, Merc, Constable) are fast and fun, but I like the longer thicker blade too.
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Ken Berry




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PostPosted: Sat 16 Aug, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for the info re grips. Yes I have looked at the munich and that is my first choice for a longsword. Absolutely beautiful! According to the review seems to handle very well also. Unfortunately cost prohibitive for me at this time. Maybe eventually though. Although my next sword will probably be a single handed sword.
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Jeremiah Swanger




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PostPosted: Sat 16 Aug, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ken Berry wrote:
From your post I would infer that you are suggesting that the waisted grip is only a one handed grip. Is that true? I know that at least some of the Albion hand and a half swords come standard with a waisted grip, like the Ringeck. I was under the impression that a waisted grip was just a different configuration and could be used one or two handed on this sword. If that is an incorrect assumption on my part someone please let me know.


I'm sorry if I confused you, Ken.

The Talhoffer is primarily a two-handed weapon. Sculpting the grip differently will not change that. However, depending on how you grip the sword, the non-waisted grip offers you some more grip options. On a very roomy grip, like the Munich, a waisted grip is very sleek and comfortable.

On something with a little less room to work with, I find the non-waisted grip to be more comfortable.

Again, it all boils down to preference.

"Rhaegar fought nobly.
Rhaegar fought valiantly.
Rhaegar fought honorably.
And Rhaegar died."

- G.R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire
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Ken Berry




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PostPosted: Sat 16 Aug, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jeremiah,

Thanks for the clarification, (thanks also to RD Moore) I appreciate the additional information. Definitely more to think about. But then I do have some time while I am donating blood...or maybe plasma for the better pay, to help make the payments.
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Jeremiah Swanger




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PostPosted: Sat 16 Aug, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ken Berry wrote:
Jeremiah,
But then I do have some time while I am donating blood...or maybe plasma for the better pay, to help make the payments.


You could also give your left arm. The Talhoffer is light enough to be wielded single-handed, anyway!

"Rhaegar fought nobly.
Rhaegar fought valiantly.
Rhaegar fought honorably.
And Rhaegar died."

- G.R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire
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Edward Hitchens




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PostPosted: Sun 17 Aug, 2008 6:40 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hey Ken!

As a former Talhoffer owner, I promise you will not be disappointed. I sold mine about a year ago, I'd say. I sure miss it! I got mine with the oxblood grip. Let us know your impressions when you get yours. Congrats!

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