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Jeff Kaisla




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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jun, 2008 9:52 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ed, thanks for the compliment. Once I get the cuisses and greaves I'll move that shield, since it's a little out of place with full plate armor Wink It just kind of looks funny with no legs, and the straps on the shield hold that sword there nicely.

Christopher, nice hauberk! I have one in progress too. You can see a little of it underneath my breastplate. I havn't done the arms on it yet and I'm a little unsure how the armpits are going to work. I've found one tutorial site on different patterns here : http://www.modaruniversity.org/Blackmaille27.htm but the armpit one kinda confused me. Any tips or pointers you could offer would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Regards,
Jeff

*Edit* I've just re-visited the site I posted and pulled out my hauberk to work on for the first time in a couple of months, and I think I've got it figured out. The first image showing ring direction must be the hauberk and not the arm / armpit detail. That's what had me confused. Confused
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Christopher VaughnStrever




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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jun, 2008 12:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The entire time, from even before I bought the metal wire I had worries about the arm pit area. I looked every where online and asked all over www.theringlord.org/forum << is a great mail community.

I started making my mail, and once I got to the arm pit area, I simply ran the rows to meet each other. There was an area where the row did not exactly line up (As in 2 rows needed to be brought together) It was not difficult as I put a couple rings in place to hold the rows together and in place.

All in all atleast in my opinion The arm pit area of mail is an area that needs no worrying^^

Jeff, your arms and harness are they from the merc's armourer? It looks so sweet especially all together, I'm likely to buy a set of armour from them piece by piece, and I really like those pauldrons.

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Jeff Kaisla




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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jun, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Christopher, yep, the arms and cuirass are from Merc Tailor. The pauldrons are from Steel Mastery in the Ukraine but Merc Tailor has something almost identical.....except the etching. The thing I like most about Merc Tailors work, and I would recommend looking for whomever you buy your armor from, is the slotted rivets....makes movement as free and fluid as you can get while being encased in a big hunk of plate steel.

Thanks for your reply on the chain maille. I think before I start the sleeve I will count the number of rings in the arm opening and make the arm to match. One last question before I derail this thread too badly...

In my arm opening at the bottom (armpit) it is squared off...as in, the rings go straight across. Since the sleeve itself is naturally going to be round, would you advise adding some more rings to make the opening round or will it come together as is if I use the correct amount of rings? The reason I ask is that I would like to keep the opening as large as possible for easy dressing and undressing....and I will taper the sleeve a bit as it nears my forearm and wrist so as to not be overly baggy.

Thanks Christopher, and sorry guys for the short detour, hopefully this Q & A will be informative for someone else as well as me.

Oh, I almost forgot! That (from the pic, looks like) suede surcoat... cool, where'd you get it? Also are those the suede Beowulf pants from MRL? I've been very interested in those.
Your kit is cool!....kind of a day to day wear for someone travelling long distances on dangerous roads. Looks comfortable as well as offering protection.
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jun, 2008 10:51 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi

All your Armour suits is very beautiful, I'm not to your level, but still put my photos Happy



(in this picture i wearing my new gambeson.....and the Chainmail is too close, I'm enlarging it)

Forgive my bad English

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Brian Ames




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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jun, 2008 9:24 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Stephan M. wrote:


Brian, great harness!
Just goes to show, it's not how many plates you have, it's how well put together those thing is. It's in the details.

I have a question. On the pic from the back, it looks like your elbows have a ridge. Mine do too; and I'm looking for a credible reference that elbows and/or spaulders could have a median ridge in the 14th century. Do you know of any sources?

TIA.


Stephan,
Thanks and yes the devil is in the details! (It’s also some of the most rewarding and fun aspects of putting a harness together IMHO) Wink
As far as a credible reference for the median ridge on the elbow cops (couters) I’m afraid I don’t know.
I simply loved the look of Allan Senefelder’s work @ Mercenary’s Tailor.
http://www.merctailor.com/index.php

I’m sure if you drop him a line he may be able to point you towards a viable reference source. Take note of
the median ridge he has on his knee cops (poleyns) as well. I’ve asked Allan if he would consider making
splinted cuisses and attach them to his knee cops so I can hopefully replace the ones I have now.

Good luck in your research! btw is your harness complete or still a work in progress?

~ Brian
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Christopher VaughnStrever




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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jun, 2008 1:55 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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In my arm opening at the bottom (armpit) it is squared off...as in, the rings go straight across. Since the sleeve itself is naturally going to be round, would you advise adding some more rings to make the opening round or will it come together as is if I use the correct amount of rings? The reason I ask is that I would like to keep the opening as large as possible for easy dressing and undressing....and I will taper the sleeve a bit as it nears my forearm and wrist so as to not be overly baggy.


You can leave the sleeves straight at the armpit, as the mail will come together as you add the rings. If you are worried about a tight armpit fit and desire to taper the fit as the sleeves reach your forearm and wrist worry no more^^ you can make expansions to make the armpit larger and you can make contractions down the arm to have a nice form fit. simply read here.. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/trevor.barker/fa...r/mail.htm See 3.1 and 3.2 sections of the page.

The suede surcoat was bought from www.mwart.com however they no longer sell it, I have seen it at other web pages but my memory doesnt recall the place I've seen it (its is about $85 or $90) if I find it I will PM you.

The pants are leather (not suede) bought from a leather store years ago, I didn't even fit into them at the time but got a good deal on them. and over 5 years later and only one oiling referbish and they are still going.

Thats what I was going for, something durable, sort of my own character for a Lord of the rings type story.

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Marc James




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PostPosted: Tue 01 Jul, 2008 11:51 am    Post subject: 14 C. HARNESS         Reply with quote

hey doug. suppose I wanted to go with a brigandine, would sabatons be historically appropriate?
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Lonnie Colson




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PostPosted: Wed 02 Jul, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I just received my new harness based on the Richard Beauchamp funeral effigy in Beauchamp Chapel of Saint Mary's Church in Warwick. It was created by Éric Dubé of Armurerie du Duche in Quebec. I am still getting my kit together for some more complete period photos. This is one my girlfriend took the afternoon that I received it:


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Paul Watson




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PostPosted: Wed 02 Jul, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Lonnie, what is the sword you are wearing in the photo and what is the sword in your avatar.
I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, but that which it protects. (Faramir, The Two Towers)
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Jul, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Eric did an amazing job on that harness. It is very nice Lonnie! You are a fortunate man! Look forward to more pictures of it. Are you going to get the cool Earl hair cut? Big Grin

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Lonnie Colson




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PostPosted: Wed 02 Jul, 2008 10:14 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That wasn't in the style book at the local barbershop. Maybe I should take a photo in there next time?
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Lonnie Colson wrote:
I just received my new harness based on the Richard Beauchamp funeral effigy in Beauchamp Chapel of Saint Mary's Church in Warwick. It was created by Éric Dubé of Armurerie du Duche in Quebec. I am still getting my kit together for some more complete period photos. This is one my girlfriend took the afternoon that I received it:



Lonnie,

looks fabulous! I was wondering if this was done yet.

Best,

Greg

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul, 2008 10:08 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Paul Watson wrote:
Lonnie, what is the sword you are wearing in the photo and what is the sword in your avatar.


I do believe that's your custom CF Baron....isn't it Lonnie?
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...n+fletcher
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Tony Drake




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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

First time on this forum Big Grin Here is me taken years ago at the lunt Centurian Ceasarian period Big Grin Idont have many pics of me in kit.

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Lonnie Colson




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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Yes, that is a custom 'Baron' by Christian Fletcher. I commissioned it before the Warwick harness. I plan to get a more period one in the future. While it is not entirely accurate for the harness, it does look and feel great, and I couldn't see taking a picture without a sword.

So many things, so little time.

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Sammy Jackson





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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: my kit!         Reply with quote

Im in the SCA / Killing Orc society.

My kits perfect for both. mixed historicaly and a bit of fantasy.
Its Aluminum so its light when i move and it covers me fully for when i fight or ride.

what do you guys think?



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Luka Borscak




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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jul, 2008 3:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Looks cool. Wink I like the corinthian style helmet. Good "fantasy-greek" lit. Happy
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jul, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wow, awesome armor mister Colson. Congratulations ! Happy

Be sure to post some pics with the helmet on.

Edit : I think this is your armor ?

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Jul, 2008 6:22 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Lonnie Colson wrote:
I just received my new harness based on the Richard Beauchamp funeral effigy in Beauchamp Chapel of Saint Mary's Church in Warwick. It was created by Éric Dubé of Armurerie du Duche in Quebec. I am still getting my kit together for some more complete period photos. This is one my girlfriend took the afternoon that I received it:



How do you keep such a shine? It's fantastic looking.

M.

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