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Fri 02 May, 2008 9:12 am
Prussian Trooper Sword
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Fri 02 May, 2008 9:16 am
If anyone wants larger photos I can send them.
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Fri 02 May, 2008 9:41 am
Very nice, Morgan, congratulations. Is there a motto in the etching or is it just a floral motif?
Jonathan
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Fri 02 May, 2008 9:51 am
Well I dont know. Its in transit as we speak. I sort of wonder if its pre-WW1 because of all the bright metal. Most of the WW1 swords I have seen have black scabbards, hilts and bakelite grips. I'm sort of hoping it will be a pre WW1 sabre.
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Fri 02 May, 2008 2:51 pm
Oooooh. Congratulations (he said, choking back the envy) on a nice piece.
Hope it makes its way swiftly and safely (unless of course it were to accidently get delivered to me instead - just kidding).
Posts: 41 Location: Germany
Sun 04 May, 2008 4:23 am
H i Morgan the Inskription on the Skabart and on the saber should read tenth Fieldartilery Regiment, 2.Batterie, Weapon Nr.39. Because iīm not a specialist its very hard to tell something It could also be of newer origin those sabers are standartised in 1920. look if there is another number on the spine of the blade. that could give you a clue .
I hope somebody knows more.
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Tue 06 May, 2008 9:46 am
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Thu 08 May, 2008 12:05 pm
Well , my Mounted artillery trooper sword just arrived. It is FREAKING AWESOME! The etching is both floral and with artillery symbols. No makers mark and no marking for who the king/kaiser/emperor is. It is much lighter than my M.1861 austrian infantry saber but has the same length ( 30 inches) and width (1 and 1/4th) blade. This sabre is more deeply curved like most mounted artillery swords are. It also has a sturdier guard than the M.1861. The deep brown leather is 95 percent intact (there is some rope cord showing underneath) and has a nice shine. The scabbard and hilt are plated. Nice and bright. The blade is also bright as well. I am totally pleased!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Fri 09 May, 2008 10:15 am
The end of the Artillery sword saga
so when I inspected the sword, it had a blade that had no edge, as in the edge was square. I was hoping for a fighting blade. Alas. However the origianal owner said he would take it back. So I'm returning it.
Posts: 41 Location: Germany
Fri 09 May, 2008 3:06 pm
Hi Morgan can You please look for other marks on the blade.
Thanks Stephan
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Fri 09 May, 2008 3:09 pm
No marks, no maker, no sigil representing the king. It is a non field blade with generic floral and military motifs. I
Posts: 41 Location: Germany
Sun 11 May, 2008 4:42 am
The Saber looks good but the unstamped Blade is with a high possibility only from decorative value.
Itīs a Girl catcher! A private purchased piece for wearing out of duty. The fact alone that the Blade isnīt sharp doesn`t mean that itīs not a fighting piece because the Sabers were only sharpened when the troups were mobilized. When they were demobilized the Blades were blunted again.
Posts: 1,265 Location: Malaysia
Wed 28 May, 2008 8:47 pm
Prussian Trooper Sword
Stephan, what do you mean this sword is called 'Girl Catcher'?
Posts: 41 Location: Germany
Thu 29 May, 2008 3:31 am
Hi Shahril the term Girl Catcher isnīt a name, itīs what the saber was used for.
in the 19th Century in Prussia Girls liked Uniformed men. The uniform was often worn even in free time to impress girls,and since issued weapons were only allowed on duty some soldiers bought sabers to wear off duty. The intention to wear a saber off duty was to impress Girls and get them into bed ;-). So the saber was used to literaly catch girls.
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Thu 29 May, 2008 11:56 am
Quite so. While in fine condition, when I saw that it was not a "fighting" blade I was very, very, dissapointed. Luckily I got a complete refund.
Posts: 41 Location: Germany
Fri 30 May, 2008 4:54 am
As I wrote before if it had been a marked blade you could have sharpened it. ( Some collectors would behead me with a dull one for saying somthing like that) The tradition to sharpen and dull it repeatedly is maybe the purpose that the most "real" blades are in a bad condition. But an unmarked Blade? You can`t tell if its tempered or not you can get the hardness tested but is the steel good, has it internal flaws, there is always a risk with antique weapons even when a good name is on the blade like weyersberg,Eickhorn or something like that. For a Collector the stability of a blade is of minor issue if it has the right marks it good for him. I donīt know why you wanted a sharp one? Just because you wanted something whose purpose was to fight not to look good, or did you have some testcutting in mind?
Stephan
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Fri 30 May, 2008 8:16 am
I dont mean necessarily "sharp". But as I wrote before, it was unmarked, no royal cypher, no national insignia. It was obviously a dress blade, with a mounted artillery "scene" on the blade. And the edge was completely squared.
The antique portion of my sword collection is devoted to fighting field swords. And even unsharpened field swords had the makings of an edge so that you didnt grind away 50 percent of the sword. This sword had none. It was as if the sword had two backs.
Its not necessary to me to have the sword be sharp, but it is important to me that the sword be a "combat" field weapon, thats just the bent of my collecting/collection. But I do admit that the stability of the sword is important to me when selecting a sword. To each his own.
Posts: 1,265 Location: Malaysia
Fri 30 May, 2008 9:53 pm
Prussian Trooper Sword
Stephan, so that's the sword's function. Off-duty troopers carry this sword so that they can impress girls and get into bed with them and this thing really happens, right?
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