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Mark Williamson
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 Posted: Tue 11 Mar, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject: Good Sabre |
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Hi all Im a noob here so I hope this is in the right place. Im looking for a good cutting sabre which is quick enough to practise with. (alone of course) Id like to be able to practise both moulinets and feints as well as I would in a duel while still being able to practise cutting with it as well.
Ive read some good things about the cold steel and windlass 1796 patterns but Im wondering if anyone practising WMA here can recoomend anything?
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Chris Murray
Location: Toronto Joined: 26 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Wed 12 Mar, 2008 10:39 am Post subject: Re: Good Sabre |
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| Mark Williamson wrote: | Hi all Im a noob here so I hope this is in the right place. Im looking for a good cutting sabre which is quick enough to practise with. (alone of course) Id like to be able to practise both moulinets and feints as well as I would in a duel while still being able to practise cutting with it as well.
Ive read some good things about the cold steel and windlass 1796 patterns but Im wondering if anyone practising WMA here can recoomend anything? |
Hi, I am new here as well, but I do have a Cold Steel 1796 pattern light cavalry sabre, so I will offer an opinion. This is a fantastic slashing weapon (due to the curvature, which gives a naturally long draw) and a wicked chopper, due the weight of the hatchet point. I can only imagine how effective this weapon would be from horseback  . That very weight of the hatchet point, however, does give this sabre significant blade presence and I don't see it as being suitable for fencing where small, controlled movements would be required (for your moulinets and feints). It would not be quick in the recovery and your wrist and forearm would tire rapidly trying to recover from feints. I've never handled a Windlass 1796 pattern sabre, so I can't speak for that one.
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Mark Williamson
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Thanks chris. I had heard the same thing about the CS 1796 being slow to recover, Ive been reding the reviews here and at other sites. My other problem is that I dont have much to spend. .
If anybody else has any Ideas let me know.
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Elling Polden
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Well, you have Hanweii Hutton practice sabres.
They are ligth and cheap, but not sabres for the field.
"this [fight] looks curious, almost like a game. See, they are looking around them before they fall, to find a dry spot to fall on, or they are falling on their shields. Can you see blood on their cloths and weapons? No. This must be trickery."
-Reidar Sendeman, from King Sverre's Saga, 1201
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Mark Williamson
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| Elling Polden wrote: | Well, you have Hanweii Hutton practice sabres.
They are ligth and cheap, but not sabres for the field. |
Hmmm. They do look a bit too light. Ive ehard some good things about the CS napolean, any thoughts? Or would I be better off looking for a tulwar?
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Morgan Butler
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I like the idea of the Hutton Sabre. It's nice, and practicing with a lighter sabre is not a bad thing at all. And then you can search for a sharp weapon of similar type. The live steel comparison for the hutton sabre is the 1861 Austrian Infantry Sabre. It has a longer "back" to it so it is heavier. But the blade profile is much the same. Here ars some pics.
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Ian Hutchison
Location: Louisiana / Nordrhein-Westholland Joined: 27 Nov 2007
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| Mark Williamson wrote: | | Elling Polden wrote: | Well, you have Hanweii Hutton practice sabres.
They are ligth and cheap, but not sabres for the field. |
Hmmm. They do look a bit too light. Ive ehard some good things about the CS napolean, any thoughts? Or would I be better off looking for a tulwar? |
http://www.militaryheritage.com/swords1.htm
Try this one and give me a review 
Or perhaps this one: http://www.militaryheritage.com/images/1802sabre_1.jpg
Both are ca. $250[/img]
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Mark Williamson
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Thanks guys, you have all made some great suggestions. I am really trying to find a curved blade since i hope to make use of the curve to practise wrist cuts and offline thrusts. Its not for reenactment purposes so I dont feel the need to be historically accurate. Im just looking for a light quick curved sword that will be responsive enough to practise with yet strong enough to cut with.
*I know Im not asking for much  *
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Shahril Dzulkifli
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| Posted: Sat 15 Mar, 2008 1:58 am Post subject: Good Sabre |
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Mark, if you are looking for a good sabre to practice with I suggest that you use this Hussar sabre.
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Mike West
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| Shahril Dzulkifli wrote: | | Mark, if you are looking for a good sabre to practice with I suggest that you use this Hussar sabre. |
That's a nice sabre. What is the country of origin?
It seems as if the sabres with straighter blades (less curvature) handle better for fencing on foot, being more maneuverable and, having a faster recovery.
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Mark Williamson
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| Posted: Sat 15 Mar, 2008 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: Good Sabre |
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| Shahril Dzulkifli wrote: | Mark, if you are looking for a good sabre to practice with I suggest that you use this Hussar sabre.
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That is nice. Which manufacturer?
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Mark Williamson
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| Posted: Sat 15 Mar, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Good Sabre |
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| Mike West wrote: | | Shahril Dzulkifli wrote: | | Mark, if you are looking for a good sabre to practice with I suggest that you use this Hussar sabre. |
That's a nice sabre. What is the country of origin?
It seems as if the sabres with straighter blades (less curvature) handle better for fencing on foot, being more maneuverable and, having a faster recovery. |
I am actually looking for something with some curve.
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Shahril Dzulkifli
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To Mike, I think this sword is either of Polish or Hungarian origin.
To Mark, the sword's manufacturer is unknown.
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Konstantin Tsvetkov
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Mark,
I would go for a british P1853 or later 19th century british cavalry sword.
Speaking of modern swords, I would, probably, choose Cold Steel Napoleonic cavalry saber. It is not so much curved as their prussian cavalry.
Konstantin.
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Mike West
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| Posted: Sun 16 Mar, 2008 9:40 am Post subject: Re: Good Sabre |
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| Shahril Dzulkifli wrote: | To Mike, I think this sword is either of Polish or Hungarian origin.
To Mark, the sword's manufacturer is unknown. |
What era would that sabre have been used? Based on what you've wrote, it sounds like it could be very effective fencing sabre while on foot.
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Nathan M Wuorio
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| Posted: Mon 17 Mar, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: Sabre |
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Might I recommend a Cossack Shashka? I have an original, but Deepeeka makes one for a very reasonable price.
If you go to www.by-the-sword.com they have a large selection of Deepeeka swords, including an entire page full of sabres.
[ I forgot to mention the price, which is $144.00]
Hope you find what your looking for.
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Mark Williamson
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| Posted: Tue 18 Mar, 2008 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: Sabre |
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| Nathan M Wuorio wrote: | Might I recommend a Cossack Shashka? I have an original, but Deepeeka makes one for a very reasonable price.
If you go to www.by-the-sword.com they have a large selection of Deepeeka swords, including an entire page full of sabres.
[ I forgot to mention the price, which is $144.00]
Hope you find what your looking for. |
How is depeeka's quality? I only ask becasue their prices seem to be more in line with wall hangers.
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Nathan M Wuorio
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I've found that the quality is surprisingly good. Carbon steel blades, pretty sharp to the touch, and holds up rather well with cutting tests. I don't think that Deepeeka is quite at the level of Albion, but for their price range the swords are pretty much unbeatable.
Nathan.
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