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Mike H
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Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2007 10:49 am Post subject: Beowulf |
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Well I don't really know what to think of this. The computer animation in this film has the Spielberg inside of me jumping up and down with excitement but then this movie has the historian and scholar inside of me screaming in rage. I want to know what you guys think.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/beowulf/large.html
Science can purify religion from error and superstition. Religion can purify science from idolatry and false absolutes- pope John Paul II
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Jean Thibodeau
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Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2007 11:07 am Post subject: Re: Beowulf |
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Mike H wrote: | Well I don't really know what to think of this. The computer animation in this film has the Spielberg inside of me jumping up and down with excitement but then this movie has the historian and scholar inside of me screaming in rage. I want to know what you guys think.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/beowulf/large.html |
I think I will go for the " Spielberg " and just give up on the historic part at least as far as any details are concerned.
( Or maybe even something even remotely historical ).
Visual spectacle of an unhistorical graphic novel maybe like the 300.
Giving up early means being able to enjoy it for what it is and not it could have been.
In any case we have the low budget Beowulf from a while back for consolation.
Bonus: With this technology there can still be a young Angelina staring in new films years from now when she's in the oldfolks home ! Or, CURSE an unending number of Die Hard, Terminator, Rambo sequels until the end of time.
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Sean Flynt
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Greg Coffman
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Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: Re: Beowulf |
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Jean Thibodeau wrote: |
Bonus: With this technology there can still be a young Angelina staring in new films years from now when she's in the oldfolks home ! Or, CURSE an unending number of Die Hard, Terminator, Rambo sequels until the end of time. |
And more Rocky sequels...oh wait, they already did that...
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Peter Lyon
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Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2007 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Beowulf |
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And more Rocky sequels...oh wait, they already did that... |
Though Rocky has more to do with good makeup and filming (to avoid showing how slow he actually is...); though the digital department will soon have their work cut out to get rid of the Zimmerframe.
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Dan P
Location: Massachusetts, USA Joined: 28 Jun 2007
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Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2007 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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I watched that trailer twice... and I must say its a little difficult to see the connection to the original story.
At least it will inspire more people to read the original.
Thats really the most positive thing I can say after seeing the preview.
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Jim Adelsen
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Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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That's kinda what I was thinking also. Not sure why they don't make a movie closely based on the story. It would make a great movie.
Dan P wrote: | I watched that trailer twice... and I must say its a little difficult to see the connection to the original story.
At least it will inspire more people to read the original.
Thats really the most positive thing I can say after seeing the preview. |
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Hisham Gaballa
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Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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I have to admit I'm a tad disappointed, why do they all look vaguely Graeco-Roman? It seems Hollywood has had a severe imagination failure.
I was hoping to see weapons and armour based on the Vendel/Valsgärde and Sutton Hoo finds.
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Blaz Berlec
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Patrik Erik Lars Lindblom
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Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2007 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Hisham Gaballa wrote: | I have to admit I'm a tad disappointed, why do they all look vaguely Graeco-Roman? It seems Hollywood has had a severe imagination failure.
I was hoping to see weapons and armour based on the Vendel/Valsgärde and Sutton Hoo finds. |
I have give up the hope for that, anyway! they use a cool technic for that movie
Divx trailer for they w/o QT
Frid o Fröjd!
Patrik
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Mike H
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Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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it sortof reminds me of conan the barbarian
Science can purify religion from error and superstition. Religion can purify science from idolatry and false absolutes- pope John Paul II
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Trent Stevens
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Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2007 11:16 pm Post subject: fun movie1 |
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i thinkk'll itll be a fun movie.......cuz it has nothing else going for it = )
Trenty!
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David D
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Posted: Fri 27 Jul, 2007 1:37 am Post subject: |
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Great........... Just great.............................. This is what, the third or fourth version of Beowulf on film that they have butchered and ruined??????? Its beyond sad that such beautiful true ancient poetry that is perfect as is, has to get into the hands of idiots and ruined.........
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Korey J. Lavoie
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Posted: Fri 27 Jul, 2007 5:22 am Post subject: |
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David D wrote: | Great........... Just great.............................. This is what, the third or fourth version of Beowulf on film that they have butchered and ruined??????? Its beyond sad that such beautiful true ancient poetry that is perfect as is, has to get into the hands of idiots and ruined......... |
What really boggles my mind is that while it has some historical elements, Beowulf is already a Fantasy story: So why do film makers see any need to adulterate the story at all?
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James Barker
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Posted: Fri 27 Jul, 2007 6:22 am Post subject: |
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Beyond what Korey said about changing the story what kills me is CGI does not have the limitations real life does in getting armor and costumes for the actors; why do the armor so wrong?
Sad part is that this movie is why Beowulf and Grendal did not get a national release last year.
James Barker
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Jean Henri Chandler
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Jean Henri Chandler
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Posted: Fri 27 Jul, 2007 6:37 am Post subject: |
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What is that accent Angelina is using? Is she supposed to be hungarian or something?
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Jean-Carle Hudon
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Posted: Fri 27 Jul, 2007 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Mike,
I think that this should do for Beowulf what that last film did for Arthur, which is to confuse a whole new generation about the original legends, except for those who still take time to read... but thanks to those happy few, the real stuff will live on where the hollywood crap will just make another layer in some land fill site .
Bon coeur et bon bras
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Dan P
Location: Massachusetts, USA Joined: 28 Jun 2007
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Posted: Fri 27 Jul, 2007 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Maybe the problem is that the "moral" or "lesson" from the original Beowulf (as I read it, that its good to be strong, brave, honest, and generous) is too simplistic for a modern audience that wants things like self-doubt, romance, temptation, flaws that make heroes seem more human, and the rest of that stuff.
In between the scenes of big dudes ripping the arms off monsters.
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Nathan Keysor
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Posted: Fri 27 Jul, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: |
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From what I can tell from that trailer it looks like Beowulf has an affair with Grendel's mother possibly fathering Grendel....Just a slight deviation from the original
And yet I'm such a geek I'll still probably go see it....
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Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
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