Help finding good quality Braveheart sword -- myArmoury.com

Zach Mauch

I'm searching for a good braveheart sword for a friend of mine who is getting married soon. It is kind of a moving on to manhood thing between the two of us. I've been searching around, but it's hard to find out things. I've read the buyers guide.

http://swordforum.com/fall99/braveheart-buyers-guide.html

Also, I've read on sword buyer's guide that the generation 2 sword is a nice one.

http://www.sword-buyers-guide.com/movie-replica-swords.html

Just to let you know, I'm looking for a battle ready sword that also would look really good hung on a wall. I don't want to spend more than I have too though. Anybody have any input on the Cas Iberia swords? They seem to be the most common Braveheart sword I'm finding. It would also be a little bit cheaper than the gen 2 one. Any thoughts

Jonathan Blair

Aaron J. Cergol · Posted: Fri 20 Jul, 2007 11:51 am Post subject:

If I were getting a braveheart replica sword i'd go with the del tin as well. be wry though as i've heard the wait for his swords can be pretty long-and shipping can be pretty high too as he's in Italy.

now if you're looking for just a scottish sword I'd go with albion's chieftian.

http://www.albion-swords.com/swords/albion/ne...n-xiia.htm

yeah sure it's pricy-but you get what you pay for. truly superb products come out of albions shop.

also there is Arms and armor

http://www.armour.com/sword100.html

again very high quality.

neither arms and armor or albion have an excedindly long backlog/wait. and they're both made in the USA.

just a thought,

Aaron

Zach Mauch · Posted: Fri 20 Jul, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject:

It's august 4. I know I waited too long. I've actually had this planned for a while too. Any links to a way to purchase the del tin version?

David McElrea · Posted: Fri 20 Jul, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject:

Just one note on the Del Tin version, so no one is disappointed...

Unless their policy (and/or Italian law) has changed, Del Tin ship their swords unsharpened. Having said that, a Del Tin will still be far better than anything from CAS (I expect).

No one here can tell you how much money you should spend on a friend, and a Del Tin could make an admirable first sword-- I expect many here started this way. If you are able and willing to go the extra stretch (for authenticity) you couldn't do much better than the Albion or A&A items already mentioned, for a Scottish or Irish greatsword.

Out of interest, is it important that the sword be a replica of the movie one or are you looking for something that the real William Wallace could have carried? If the latter, you could look at:

Albion's "Laird": http://www.albion-swords.com/swords/albion/ne...d-xii2.htm

or Albion's "Caithness": http://www.albion-swords.com/swords/albion/ne...s-xii3.htm

They are significantly less costly than the Chieftain (which I myself covet), and are more appropriate to the era of Wallace.

Just some thoughts. Either way, your friend is a lucky man-- getting married and getting a sword! Now there's the stuff of fantasies. You're a good man. Happy

Craig Peters · Posted: Fri 20 Jul, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject:

Craig Peters · Posted: Fri 20 Jul, 2007 6:16 pm Post subject:

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Bill Grandy · myArmoury Team

I don't know if it's in stock or not, but:

http://filmswords.com/alsostarring/alsostarring.htm

Zach Mauch · Posted: Fri 20 Jul, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject:

Well, I'm probably not going to go for the CAS. I'm looking hard at the Gen 2 because it's a battle ready and seems pretty good. I just wish someone here would comment on that one. Seems a little late for the Del Tin, but I could get the Gen 2 shipped here on time. I'm just not entirely sure if I can trust the Sword-buyers-guide.com review. Seems like they might have a little bit of a stake in the Gen 2 sales. Anybody got experience with those?

Also, I'll definitely check on the Del Tin. However, not being sharpened puts a damper on it.

Bob Burns · Posted: Fri 20 Jul, 2007 11:23 pm Post subject:

Hi Zach, I have the Arms & Armor "Highland Claymore", it's an awesome sword however it is $755.00 but they might have one ready to ship. Depending on how close of friends you are and your financial bracket, this might be a whole lot more than your willing to spend. But wow what an Awesome Sword Exclamation

Sincerely,

Bob

Chuck Wyatt · Posted: Sat 21 Jul, 2007 1:27 am Post subject:

hI zach,
I have the gen 2 Lucerne Sword and I am very happy with it. It arrived sharp, i have been cutting 2 liter soda bottles with it for about a year and it's still allmost as sharp as the day it arrived. It's a little heavy but still very functional, I orderd from http://imperialweapons.com/ and the sword was delivered in 4 days.
Hope this helps, any more questions PM or ask here.
Chuck

Grayson C. · Posted: Sat 21 Jul, 2007 6:25 am Post subject:

Zach, I'm involved a lot over at the SBG sword forum and have written 2 reviews that are on the site and 2 more that will be up soon.

Paul Southren is a great guy and gen2 really is as great as he says. They are probably the most sturdy swords on the market today. Now, before anyone brings this up - No, they are not sharpened crowbars, although they can be a tad weighty. My lone gen2 (the witham) handles almost as well as my Albion Ritter, and from what I've heard from other people over on the SBG sword forum, their swords handle well too. You might want to talk to Clyde, the owner, for a better description of anything you want on the sword, as he's a great guy and will be more than happy to help you,

Good luck!

(I'm not suggesting for you to go with gen2, by the way. I'm just saying that it is a great sword company - I don't know anything about this particular sword and therefore I couldn't recommend it to you without knowing more about it)

Zach Mauch · Posted: Sat 21 Jul, 2007 7:17 am Post subject:

Thanks guys, this has all been a lot of help. This is one of my best friends and I'm willing to spend a lot, but for me that's probably about 300 bucks. 700 would just be too much. As for the sword itself, yes it really does need to be a replica from the movie. The significance of it is more wrapped around the story of the movie than the actual person.

Grayson, thank you very much. That was exactly what I was looking for. Right now, I think I'm more than likely getting the gen 2. I'll inquire into the del tin, but I'm doubting I can get it in on time. I just want a high quality battle ready sword. Doesn't matter if it's the same company that made it for the movie.

Glen A Cleeton · Posted: Sat 21 Jul, 2007 7:59 am Post subject:

Hi Zach,

Another U.S. source for Del Tin is Art Elwell (California) of www.a-work-of-art.net It might be worth shooting him an email to see if he has one in stock. He can also sharpen it for you.
aelwell45@email.msn.com

The Albion (Wisconsin) based Film Sword source would also sharpen, for a fee.

For what it's worth, Del Tin will grind closer to full sharp upon request. The default can be a little thick at the edge and will result in a fairly substantial seconday bevel, unless the person grinding it sharp takes some time. I came into a Del Tin that had been ordered direct and with the request of a thinner/tighter edge. The previous owner had no problem bringing it to full sharp and there was little secondary bevel imposed. The difference being default of about a 2mm edge and this 5157 came through with a substantialy less thick edge.

Wait times from Del Tin are down to a listed three months and I wouldn't be suprised if an order went more quickly. It was not that long ago that they were quoting eighteen months.

www.deltin.net

I would give Art Elwell a shout, he may well have one in stock, as he tries to carry a good inventory. Albion/Film Sword is worth a phone call as well.

Cheers

GC

Steve Grisetti · Posted: Sat 21 Jul, 2007 8:31 am Post subject:

David Sutton · Posted: Sat 21 Jul, 2007 8:38 am Post subject:

I received a sword from Del Tin a couple of months back. I ordered in February and the completion date was given around the end of May. In the event got an email back at the beginning of May saying that my order was ready and waiting to be dispatched, a good 3 or 4 weeks before I was expecting. So at the moment Del Tin have a pretty quick turn around time on their orders. Full marks to Fulvio I think! Cool

Bill Grandy · myArmoury Team

I just took a look at the Gen 2 Wallace sword... at 6 pounds, I must confess that I'm skeptical about it. That's really heavy for what it is. Now, I've handled heavy swords that were balanced well enough to feel lighter, so I can't make any major judgements based on weight alone. Furthermore, it really only casually looks like the movie sword. Personally, I wouldn't buy it as a movie replica, but that's just my opinion.

I'm going to have to somewhat respectfully disagree with Grayson. Some of the Gen 2 swords really are just sharpened crowbars, while some of them handle quite well. I did two reviews on this site of two different Gen 2 swords, and one was much nicer than the other. It really depends on the individual sword.

Grayson C. · Posted: Sat 21 Jul, 2007 9:41 am Post subject:

Hey Bill

From what I can tell, the older models really were too heavy and unbalanced. I'm actually a tad skeptical on this particular sword too because I haven't heard anything about it recently, so I'm assuming it's remained unchanged (Clyde is famous for taking user's recommendations to heart and fixing his swords - Evident on the Black Prince, Ranger, and Witham, especially). If it HAS remained unchanged it may very well be quite hefty. However if Clyde has done some recent work on it, then I have no doubt about it's ability to function.

Regarding your opinions on the two swords you reviewed (Great reviews by the way Wink

) - Some people like the way the 12th c. feels, some people don't. Mike Harris and G. Scott. H., both members here, own the sword and absolutely love it. I know you have a lot of experience with swords, but couldn't some of it be personal taste in addition to the sword's handling characteristics? Not trying to downplay anything you've said of course, and to rieterate, I obviously agree with you somewhat - They have been known to be crowbars in the past and the unchanged models probably are still. Unfortuanetely we'll never know unless someone buys one!

Nathan Robinson · myArmoury Admin

Grayson C. · Posted: Sat 21 Jul, 2007 1:38 pm Post subject:

Sorry, my underlying message seems to have been lost.

Yes that did have a point Laughing Out Loud

- Gen2 is a decent company that you can generally safely buy from.

Sorry for that Nathan, I'll try not to let it happen again.