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Magnus Jansson
Location: Norrtälje, Sweden Joined: 11 Nov 2005
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 Posted: Thu 12 Apr, 2007 7:24 am Post subject: Dagger mid 13th century |
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Hi everybody.
I'm reenecting as a Knights Templar and also doing some show jousts. I would really know what kind of daggers were used by a knight in the mid 13th century.
Any pictures and sizes of real daggers would really be appreciated.
http://www.tempelriddarna.se
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Elling Polden
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there are plenty of daggers in period manuscripts. They are generally shown with hilts similar to those seen on swords in the period;
http://www.medievaltymes.com/courtyard/images...&b.gif
http://www.medievaltymes.com/courtyard/images...etail2.gif
"this [fight] looks curious, almost like a game. See, they are looking around them before they fall, to find a dry spot to fall on, or they are falling on their shields. Can you see blood on their cloths and weapons? No. This must be trickery."
-Reidar Sendeman, from King Sverre's Saga, 1201
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Merv Cannon
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| Posted: Fri 13 Apr, 2007 3:04 am Post subject: Daggers in 13thC. |
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Hi Magnus.............Elling's right, the Maciejowski bible had heaps of different daggers. But I found one original in my files at least...... its the 'download' one !
hope this helps,
Cheers !
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Merv ....... KOLR
http://www.lionrampant.com.au/
"Then let slip the dogs of war ! "......Woof !
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Craig Peters
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| Posted: Fri 13 Apr, 2007 6:14 am Post subject: Re: Dagger mid 13th century |
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| Magnus Jansson wrote: | Hi everybody.
I'm reenecting as a Knights Templar and also doing some show jousts. I would really know what kind of daggers were used by a knight in the mid 13th century.
Any pictures and sizes of real daggers would really be appreciated.
http://www.tempelriddarna.se |
Magnus,
To the best of my knowledge, surviving 13th century daggers are exceedingly rare; I don't even know that we have any. So unfortunately, you may be stuck with medieval manuscript illustrations.
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Elling Polden
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| Posted: Fri 13 Apr, 2007 7:11 am Post subject: |
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There are some in Oakeshot's "Archeology of weapons"
These are similiar to some of the ones from Maciowski; The "pommel" is basically made from a iron rod with the ends curled upwards.
"this [fight] looks curious, almost like a game. See, they are looking around them before they fall, to find a dry spot to fall on, or they are falling on their shields. Can you see blood on their cloths and weapons? No. This must be trickery."
-Reidar Sendeman, from King Sverre's Saga, 1201
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