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Chad Arnow
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 Posted: Tue 19 Aug, 2003 2:22 pm Post subject: A&A Edward III |
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I posted this on *ahem* some other forum, but didn't get many good answers.
Does anyone here have any opinions on this sword by Craig and the boys?
Here are some stats Russ took off one he was scabbarding:
Overall length: 42.5 inches
Blade Length: 32.75 inches
POB: 3.5 inches from cross
Weight 3.6 lbs
Thanks!
Sorry the pic is so huge. Is there a way to cut it down in size? This is the actual size of the image on A&A server, but it appears smaller on the webpage...
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Edward III by A&A
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Nathan Robinson
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I sized the photo down for you in Photoshop.
I absolutely love this piece. It's so much larger in-person than the photos and stats would indicate. In fact, a quick look at the photos on A&A's site as well as those of the original really would make one think that it's a fairly typical single-handed sword. The proportions are the same as much smaller swords, but it's simply considerably scaled up to a much larger overall weapon!
The detail is quite nice and worth every penny of what A&A is asking for it.
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Thomas McDonald
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| Posted: Tue 19 Aug, 2003 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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I've not had the pleasure of handling this fine looking A&A piece , but from what I see, and knowing A&A's excellent reputation ..... it's awesome !
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Björn Hellqvist
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A quite impressive sword, which would be nice to see IRL. I would expect that the A&A guys are less than happy with Hanwei ripping off the design. I find it hard to believe that the Chinese guys went to Europe and researched the original piece...
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Wed 20 Aug, 2003 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| Björn Hellqvist wrote: | | A quite impressive sword, which would be nice to see IRL. I would expect that the A&A guys are less than happy with Hanwei ripping off the design. I find it hard to believe that the Chinese guys went to Europe and researched the original piece... |
Yeah, the Hanwei looks like a copy of a copy of a copy.....
Here's a pic of the Hanwei hilt and a full pic from ancient-east.com. (Just for Nathan, I've attached one pic and linked another in from the outside)
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Amy Christensen-Waddell
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It's not my style at all, however I can certainly appreciate the beauty of it. And to see the Hanweii model in the same post really brings out the quality of the A&A piece. Some fine work.
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Craig Johnson
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| Posted: Wed 20 Aug, 2003 9:44 pm Post subject: Evenin folks good to type at yea |
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Thanks for the kind words. It realy is an impressive sword. I think the element that doesn't come across is that it is sized like a "Great Sword of War" as Ewart was so found of describing them.
Chad I think you where wondering on the useable vs state sword issue. I would say it is quite useable but obviously a Royal Sword if the ED III connection holds true. There is an indication of this on the sword according to Ewart. He describes the grip actually having signifigant wear patterns coresponding to the areas where the fingers and especially the thumb would land, if I remeber correctly. This would be a detail that I doubt a faker of the period when the sword came to light would have added and kept the rest of it so pristine.
There is said to be an accompanying dagger as well but I have only seen a very blury sales card showing the two items, so it is difficult to tell how good it is.
The porticullus detail on the blade is interesting as it is described as being just the gate in books and such but when one realy gets close in, I felt, there was signifigant remains of the chains depicted as well, so included them on our replica.
It is interesting to see the Chinese piece. It is not to bad. The details are a bit off as they missed the caps on the ends of the crossguard and some other bits and I think I remember their size being smaller.
Well best to all and exquise the color I had to try out some of the bells and whistles
Craig 
PS OH cool spell ckeck now I can look smirt two. -- ohhh
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Patrick Hastings
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| Posted: Thu 21 Aug, 2003 12:44 am Post subject: Re: Evenin folks good to type at yea |
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| Craig Johnson wrote: |
Thanks for the kind words. It realy is an impressive sword. I think the element that doesn't come across is that it is sized like a "Great Sword of War" as Ewart was so found of describing them.
Chad I think you where wondering on the useable vs state sword issue. I would say it is quite useable but obviously a Royal Sword if the ED III connection holds true. There is an indication of this on the sword according to Ewart. He describes the grip actually having signifigant wear patterns coresponding to the areas where the fingers and especially the thumb would land, if I remeber correctly. This would be a detail that I doubt a faker of the period when the sword came to light would have added and kept the rest of it so pristine.
There is said to be an accompanying dagger as well but I have only seen a very blury sales card showing the two items, so it is difficult to tell how good it is.
The porticullus detail on the blade is interesting as it is described as being just the gate in books and such but when one realy gets close in, I felt, there was signifigant remains of the chains depicted as well, so included them on our replica.
It is interesting to see the Chinese piece. It is not to bad. The details are a bit off as they missed the caps on the ends of the crossguard and some other bits and I think I remember their size being smaller.
Well best to all and exquise the color I had to try out some of the bells and whistles
Craig
PS OH cool spell ckeck now I can look smirt two. -- ohhh
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Craig, is that hilt Gold plated or is it a polished alloy? Is the pommel decorated and enameled on both sides?
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Craig Johnson
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| Posted: Thu 21 Aug, 2003 8:03 am Post subject: Howdy Patrick |
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Yes the guard and pommel are gold plated, this conforms to the original. The pommel is not decorated on the back side. The original has a stone (now quite cloudy) that probably has a religous artifact behind it. Possibly cloth if I remember correctly.
Craig
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Thu 21 Aug, 2003 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Craig,
Are the rings on the grip plated as well? It's hard to tell from the photo.
Also, would you consider just doing a bronze version with no plating?
Chad
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Patrick Hastings
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| Posted: Thu 21 Aug, 2003 10:58 am Post subject: Re: Howdy Patrick |
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| Craig Johnson wrote: | The original has a stone (now quite cloudy) that probably has a religous artifact behind it. Possibly cloth if I remember correctly.
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very interesting, I wonder what exactly is in there?
thanks.
Patrick Hastings
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Nathan Robinson
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Thu 21 Aug, 2003 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Howdy Patrick |
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| Patrick Hastings wrote: | very interesting, I wonder what exactly is in there?
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IIRC, it's part of the shroud of Edward the Confessor.
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Patrick Hastings
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| Posted: Thu 21 Aug, 2003 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: Howdy Patrick |
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| Chad Arnow wrote: | | Patrick Hastings wrote: | very interesting, I wonder what exactly is in there?
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IIRC, it's part of the shroud of Edward the Confessor. |
what does "IIRC" stand for?
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Thu 21 Aug, 2003 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: Howdy Patrick |
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| Patrick Hastings wrote: | | what does "IIRC" stand for? |
If I Recall Correctly.
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Patrick Hastings
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| Posted: Thu 21 Aug, 2003 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: Howdy Patrick |
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| Nathan Robinson wrote: | | Craig Johnson wrote: | | The original has a stone (now quite cloudy) that probably has a religous artifact behind it. Possibly cloth if I remember correctly. |
In your reproduction, where did you guys get your supply of religous artifacts?  |
they just need a supply of dirty crystal so you can't see that its an old gym-sock piece
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Joshua Hemingway
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Man that thing is just stunning....
Of swords out there that is I realy want for my own little colection.
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Craig Johnson
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| Posted: Thu 21 Aug, 2003 10:31 pm Post subject: Hello All |
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Yes the bands are plated as well. I am not sure what has been deciphered on the original I need to go check me notes. Its very hectic here of late so it maybe a bit till I can do that.
Actually we go through Chuck's Artifacts new and used :-)
Keep well
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Craig
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W. Patrick McGuigan
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I've always been impressed with that Arms and Armor Edward III sword. I really hope to buy it some day
By the way, does anyone know if there is an original scabbard for this sword? Hanwei didn't seem to do a bad interpretation of it. Do you think the scabbard would have looked like that?
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Robert Grant Gomm
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Just out of curiosity, what is the grip wrapped in? Oakeshott says the original is probally adder skin, but I imagine that might be a bit difficult to come by. but is it some other exotic skin (like ray skin or something), or just leather? Also, is the pommel piened on or screwed on?
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