[W. Schütz]

Going to make an Ahlspiess soon and digging for museum/collection photos of the wonderful Ahlspiess. These ive found so far but im interested in getting some with high resolution for more "forging details".

[James Barker]

Here are some I took:



Base of an axe next to it:

[W. Schütz]

Thanks alot. I sure love the simpler weapons.

[W. Schütz]

Photo of the ahlspiess i made;


Done in four hectic workdays to try and get a feel for pre-war massproduction..

The other pix can be seen here http://allmoge.blogspot.com/ at higher resolution.

Parden for the photo quality, my camera is not too good.

Cheers!

[James Barker]

Your ahlspiess reproduction looks really nice; I would hate for that to stick me

[Sean Flynt]

Great work! Your whole kit looks good, judging by the Olofsgillet photos in your other album!

This is late, but I thought you'd still want to see it:

[Jean Henri Chandler]

Great Ahlspiess, I'd love to see more photos, close up perhaps?

I think much of the confusion in the west is over the name, usually translated as "awl-pike" which means most people think it's a form of pike, in the sense of being 18' long, which is a formation weapon most people don't consider a personal weapon you might associate with say, a Ren Faire persona or a D&D character or something. How would you fit in your minivan?


I think it's a very interesting and seemingly effective weapon, I've been waiting to see more reproductions of them. I wonder if it's a progression from the Pilum, to the Angon (which the Franks seemed to use as both a thrusting spear and a throwing spear instead of a pure javelin as it basically was for the Romans) to the ahlespiess.


thanks for posting that, very nice weapon.

J

[W. Schütz]

Thanks for the pic Sean (never too late) and the comments..

Here are some more pictures and the first one in higher resolution;

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p19/De-Pro...piess2.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p19/De-Pro...piess3.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p19/De-Pro...piess1.jpg

I dont think 'Awl-pike' is a very good translation, since its obviously an infantery spear of quite avarage length, not to be use in a phalanx-formation but as a spear exclusivly dedicated for thrusting to combat armoured opponents.
The one i made is ca 230cm long and weighs 1,8kg, its balance is 15cm down from the rondel which gives it a good balance when held with two hands in say a low guard, with still some weight forward for the thurst.
The spear i made i wanted to fit a simple soldier, a munitions-grade weapon. So i gave myself a timelimit, four days, to do it in, to try and get some of these imperfections that you have a hard time accepting if you work it merely as a peice of art, but that i think are important to approach the feel of the time. So its not a forging-masterpeice but im pleased with the resault.
Its made fully by hand exept the basic sledging done with spring-hammer. Tool-steel 0,6%carb, hardened, tempered and handground.
The shaft is Red-beech, a type of wood found where these weapons where made originally.

[Sean Flynt]

Here's something else that might interest you. Waldman distinguishes between this short type and the longer versions like yours. I believe he refers to these as candeliere or something similar. The name is the same as the long, wood-hafted candles used in Europe at the time. Dürer depicts one of those candles in one of his woodcuts (with a spiral-turned haft) So, there's a bit of an infantryman's joke in calling those shorter weapons "candles". With the spiral reinforcing band(?) the weapon shown below does closely resemble the candle in the Dürer woodcut.

[Sean Flynt]

More. These are from this wonderful site:

http://www.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/realonline/

Simply choose "Materielle Objekte" from the drop-down menu, set the date range and search the alphabetical list for whatever you want (you have to know the German term for what you want to find, of course):

[W. Schütz]

Ive heard of the term candeliere but i think its a word that describes the 14th cen predecessor to the awl-spear, which has a shorter, thicker and round spike, just like the candlestick of the time had a disc and a round spike where you put the candle. To me the spears carried in the wonderful picture you posted might be awl-spears just with more spike and less shaft, and with spiral langettes. But they do look quite different then the normal simple Awlspear so to call them 'candle-spears' would not be an unnecessary distincion perhapse. These spiral langettes are also found on some staff-swords i recall..
Ive also read somewhere that Awl-spears without the rondel are called 'Breach pikes', but i dont see the need for distinction just because of the rondel being there or not.

[W. Schütz]

Does anyone have a photo of a Candeliere-original perhapse? I would very much like to try and reproduce one of them.

[David Black Mastro]

[Daria Estel]

I think you won't be against if I use image of your ahlspike in my school project work?
Thank you for the photo. It's really great work.

[W. Schütz]

No i think i will not be against that..;/
Thank you for the comments.

Semantics; its not the word "awl" im against, its "pike", since its a spear..

[Johan S. Moen]

[Danny Grigg]

Found this the other day

http://www.masterarmourer.com/antiques_for_sale.htm

Enjoy

Danny

[Jim Z]

For all who have seen the originals, can anyone tell me what the socket /langet construction is like in terms of assembly and dimensions? What is the diameter of the shaft socket and is the socket actually a socket or just a couple of rounded langets welded to a square spike? What is the dimension of the spike? Thanks!