Some really interesting stuff here. Again, this is either from Treasures of the Islamic World or The Arts of War.
Firstly is an Iranian talismanic mail shirt, one of only a handful that are known in the world. Talismanic shirts in Islam are shirts with different phrases or names on them for luck. This mail shirt has the names Allah, Muhammad, Ali, Fatima, Hasan, Husayn, pressed into each individual ring.
This second picture is a detail of the rings from the above shirt.
The third picture is a 15th century iranian mail shirt
Here is a different 15th century mail shirt from Iran
Finally, a 15th century Ottoman mail shirt.
Last edited by Alina Boyden on Fri 06 May, 2005 5:25 pm; edited 1 time in total
Theres a shirt in Higgins very similar to the first one though if I remember right its Egyptian. I like maille and plates a great deal . Used to own quite alot of it. Theres something of an organic quality to it that i've always been fascinated with. It seems less contrived, more "slinky" than plate armour in appearence. Again nice pics!
| Allan Senefelder wrote: |
| Theres a shirt in Higgins very similar to the first one though if I remember right its Egyptian. I like maille and plates a great deal . Used to own quite alot of it. Theres something of an organic quality to it that i've always been fascinated with. It seems less contrived, more "slinky" than plate armour in appearence. Again nice pics! |
Slinky? Now I will forever associate 16th century Ottoman armor with women's underwear. :blush:
| Alina Boyden wrote: |
| .... Talismanic shirts in Islam are shirts with different phrases or names on them for luck. This mail shirt has the names Allah, Muhammad, Ali, Fatima, Hasan, Husayn, pressed into each individual ring.... |
Oh, wow. :eek:
| Nate C. wrote: | ||
Oh, wow. :eek: |
Sorry that it's so hard to see even on the ring detail pic.
| Alina Boyden wrote: |
| .... Talismanic shirts in Islam are shirts with different phrases or names on them for luck. This mail shirt has the names Allah, Muhammad, Ali, Fatima, Hasan, Husayn, pressed into each individual ring....
Sorry that it's so hard to see even on the ring detail pic. |
I tried to make it out, but can't very well. I'm guessing that the method was akin to striking a coin - would accomplish flattening of the ring (if it wasn't already), overlap the ends, flatten the rivet point, and stamp the text all at once. Still an insane amount of work. I'd heard of these talismanic shirts before, but had not seen a picture of one. This, I could recreate, but nobody could afford both it and the therapy I'd need afterwards. :p
| Aaron Schnatterly wrote: | ||
This, I could recreate, but nobody could afford both it and the therapy I'd need afterwards. :p |
Well for a talismanic mail shirt I'd be tempted to try...
The Met in NYC has got a few Islamic armor pieces, including one 19th c. butted shirt that has brass links woven into that spell out the Prayer to Ali, according to the plaque.
Many of my pics from the Met are in the photo albums here.
http://www.myArmoury.com/albums/photo/3439.html
http://www.myArmoury.com/albums/photo/3437.html
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Many of my pics from the Met are in the photo albums here.
http://www.myArmoury.com/albums/photo/3439.html
http://www.myArmoury.com/albums/photo/3437.html
Attachment: 45.29 KBVery nice Bill! Thanks for those pics.
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