So, ring pommels! They are amazing, elegant, simple and awesome!
I was seriously considering using one for my custom sword in my harness, but i would like to reenact and italian, or maybe german, Mercenary... so the question is: Do we have surviving examples, representation or even accounts of ring pommels being adopted outside Ireland? Considering the "fancyness" of swords in Italian Reinassance it would seem strange to me that such a particular pommel did not find the taste of someone in the continent...
There is also a very nice (but small) hand and a half sword in Solingen, described in "The sword, thought and form", it has a pommel with a hole in the center, filled with brass lattice. It is truly amazing. I'll look up if I have a few pictures of it.
| Bram Verbeek wrote: |
| There is also a very nice (but small) hand and a half sword in Solingen, described in "The sword, thought and form", it has a pommel with a hole in the center, filled with brass lattice. It is truly amazing. I'll look up if I have a few pictures of it. |
This one?
in many ways, the pommel is more an integral part of the tang of that sword, forged to shape, than it is a pommel in the normal sense. the cross is mounted by sliding up from the tip of the blade, and pinned in place with a rivet, similar to a messer nagel in construction.
it is notable that it is very much child-sized, despite its proportions.
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The three swords used in the coronation of the King or Queen of the UK; the sword of spiritual justice, the sword of temporal justice, and sword of mercy (curtana), all have a ring pommell somewhat like those on Irish examples.
I wasn't searching for new examples, but came across one today anyway... it's in a German Crucifixion scene, c. 1490s.
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https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/master-of-the-aachen-altarpiece-the-crucifixion
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https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/master-of-the-aachen-altarpiece-the-crucifixion
I have found a few photo's, but they're bad, luckily, you can still find the cover of the book online, it's a closeup of the lattice work: [ Linked Image ] There even is a zoomed out picture of it.
EDIT for clarity, this is not a ring pommel, but another form of open pommel.
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EDIT for clarity, this is not a ring pommel, but another form of open pommel.
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| Bram Verbeek wrote: |
| I have found a few photo's, but they're bad, luckily, you can still find the cover of the book online, it's a closeup of the lattice work: [ Linked Image ] There even is a zoomed out picture of it. |
Thats strange, it looks like there's no tang going through the pommel...
| Michele Allori wrote: | ||
Thats strange, it looks like there's no tang going through the pommel... |
There isn't. The entire upper part of the grip and pommel are an integral part of the tang, as James Elmslie already noted upthread.
| Michele Allori wrote: | ||
Thats strange, it looks like there's no tang going through the pommel... |
I was not clear, sorry, it is not a ring pommel, but an open german pommel nonetheless.
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