Hi all :)
We know the rondel daggers.
And I found a "rondel dagger with the strange guard". :eek:
http://www.allenantiques.com/W-3.html

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Early 16th century Early 16th century form. All steel construction with a large rondel forming the pommel and a smaller rondel forming the guard. The guard is asymetrical, with a tab bent down in the back (so that it can lie next to the body of the wearer).

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I saw this type of guard(of a rondel dagger) for the first time. :!: :eek: :!:
Are there other examples? :?:

ummm... I think that wearer becomes hard to catch the grip... :?:

These aren't that unusual. Here are some from our Spotlight Article on rondel daggers:

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The top one.

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Not the greatest picture, but some of these see to have this if I'm interpreting the shadows right.

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This one may have a tab that bends down in the back.

And there are more than these. These seem to be German more often than not and dating from the late 15th/early 16th century.

Here's a review of a modern repro: http://www.myArmoury.com/review_em_steelrond.html .

As Chad says, not at all unusual for this all steel style of dagger and the last example is from The Wallace collection and indeed dos have this folded down tab. I am not sure if it makes it easier to wear or offers a little 'catch' or both; but it looks good.

Tod

Hi all :)

I have already read "Spotlight: The Rondel Dagger" before post this topic..
But I did not notice... :(

Thanks :)

I don't think it's as big a deal as you might think at first glance. If I stick my rondel in my belt the pommel end sticks out a fair amount. (Although mine isn't like those depicted, it has an itty-bitty "crossguard" and the pommel isn't even a disc shape, so I don't think this is that different for this issue.) Factor in a large disc for a pommel and I imagine it wouldn't be difficult for someone to wear and use such a dagger in civilian life at least. I can't really comment too much on using one with armour though.


Edit: Concerning being able to pull one in a civilian versus war context, I notice that the examples above are listed as late 15th and early 16th, when armour was in decline...