i'm looking for a basic pair of milanese pauldrons. i'm going to use them for jousting so i'd like them to have form and function...where should i start looking?

i'd really like something like these pauldrons...

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Get them made for you by a respected custom armourer. In america, I can think of two still working, but I'm sure there are a few more I haven't heard of.

Historic Enterprises

Wasson Artistry

Also, what is that guy in the picture doing? Pauldrons, great helm and no breastplate? Someone needs to do some research.

we do stunt shows at renaissance faires in the u.s..... he's well aware of not historically accurate....he actually started tobias capwell's jousting career!!when you do 10 show a weekend falling off your horse every show, for 40 weeks sometimes your comfort comes to mind... thanks for the links very helpful! do you know any good armorers that work in stainless? every thing i've found isn't the best looking...

I've moved this topic out of the Marketplace Talk forum. That forum is only for people seeking to buy used items from other readers. It is not for the seeking or giving of advice of any kind.

Thank you.

Sorry mate, I don't know, but then I've never asked anyone to make me anything out of stainless.

I don't understand how less armour would be better for falling off? Or how a greathelm would be more comfortable than an armet?

GDFB makes the only ready-to-go, off-the-shelf pair of Milanese pauldrons that I can think of off the top of my head.

http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=...+Shoulders

Folks,
I'm seeing people starting to get a little upset. That's not necessary, especially considering that the part of the conversation that's getting people riled up is off-topic to the original question.

Let's stay nice, polite, and civil. It's how things are supposed to work on this site. Plus, it's Christmas. :) If we can't be charitable and understanding at this time of year, we have no chance the rest of the year. :)

Let's get back on topic and back to being nice all around.

Having been mentioned here, being an armourer who also jousts competitively worldwide, and having come off horses enough while armed to be able to speak from experience...

I must agree with Zac.

Anyone coming off a horse will be better off if wearing properly made, properly fitted armour. That's because if properly made and fitted, the armour performs it's intended function as a second skin, it -supports- the body on impact, be it from a lance or the ground.

Improperly fitting armour can be hazardous. I believe poorly fitting armour is why many people often believe it's detrimental to wear armour when falling off a horse. Because most armourers don't know what they're doing when making jousting armour, people get junk and get hurt while wearing it. If the armour doesn't fit, it's more of a liability than a benefit.

Armour works when it's made right. If it's made wrong it can hurt you rather than protect you, especially if it doesn't fit.

That's not to say that ANY armour will protect you completely from hundreds of falls off horses. No armour will protect forever when subjected to continued abuse, especially without proper maintenance. It's a fact that the human body will only survive a limited amount of abuse, regardless of whether it's clad in good or bad armour. Falling off horses takes its toll eventually, even if you're wearing really good armour. One should have realistic views of what can be expected from armour, but it's good to start with good equipment if you want your body to do well over time.

Sorry to be blunt, but I believe I have the qualifications to speak on this issue.

James Arlen Gillaspie http://mysite.verizon.net/tulkaz/index.html and Brent Junkins http://www.anshelmarms.com/ both have exceptional records as business people from what I have gathered, have done solid historically designed/shaped work, and have both worked in stainless. I would underscore Jeff's work as well, but I know he prefers spring steel.