Posts: 18
Tue 15 Dec, 2009 7:46 am
help: problems with a helmet
Hello,
I urgently need to have information on the helmet of the photo, :?: precise dating, collection or museum where it is and if there are other photos of this model. help!
I also need to know what good was the ring that is located on the front of the helmet.
thanks
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Tue 15 Dec, 2009 8:56 am
I my self would like to know more about this helmet. I have posted your pic if you don't mine for user to view on. hopefully this would help them identify more quickly ..
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Posts: 18
Tue 15 Dec, 2009 9:02 am
Thank you :) , we hope to soon get new information
Posts: 1,563 Location: Upstate NY
Tue 15 Dec, 2009 9:26 am
This is an early form of burgeonette, sometimes I believe refered to as a sturmheub. I believe this one dates to around 1500-1510. I would assume that the piece on the front was perhaps for some sort of face plate. I may be wrong but I believe at the time this picture was taken ( c. 1900- 1920 ) it was in the German National Museum. The pic is from before the war so where it is now I don't know.
Posts: 239 Location: California
Tue 15 Dec, 2009 10:20 am
Helmet
Alberto,
This probably won't help much, but just to add to the info from Allan.....
There is a fluted Austrian armet (1510-20) in the Victoria and Albert Museum that has a very similar staple. In this case it is mounted on the overlapping right cheek piece. A photo caption of 1960s states, "The staple pierced with an eye........is a peculiar feature; its function is uncertain." I have always thought it was for some sort of reinforcing plate for the chin joint.
Thanks for posting the photos. Have only seen a few similar helmets, but only in woodcuts, etc.
Regards,
Dan
Posts: 5,981 Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Tue 15 Dec, 2009 11:58 am
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Tue 15 Dec, 2009 12:06 pm
Posts: 5,981 Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Tue 15 Dec, 2009 1:48 pm
This is typical, ca. 1517. Discussion here:
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=11664
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Posts: 18
Tue 15 Dec, 2009 2:08 pm
Sean
is a very interesting one of your images, the first of your second post. Can you tell me the author and where is it? and maybe you have one a little bigger?
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Posts: 5,981 Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Wed 16 Dec, 2009 6:45 am
Kunstwerk: Malerei-Holz ; Einrichtung sakral ; Flügelaltar-Werktagsseite
Dokumentation: 1518 ; 1518 ; Sebes ; Rumänien ; Siebenbürgen ; Evang. Kirche
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Posts: 18
Wed 16 Dec, 2009 10:50 pm
thanks sean! :)
Since I'm going to make me a replica of the helmet of the picture, if you have any further information, images and photos let me know ...
Posts: 5,981 Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Thu 17 Dec, 2009 8:52 am
I'll pass along anything else I find. By the way, it might be possible to modify a cheap "celtic" helmet like the old Windlass "Celtic Boar Helmet". There are more current versions around. Those are simple steel bowls of this size, with decent liners. A bit of hammer work at front and rear, cutouts on the sides and creation of the laminated cheek guards....
Posts: 124 Location: Hunedoara, Transylvania, Romania
Thu 17 Dec, 2009 10:15 am
I am from Romania, Hunedoara, about 68 km from Sebes ... and also I am a member of a medieval reenactment group in Hunedoara. I never saw that painting but It looks interesting. I will try to find out more.
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