Dear all, we have created a simple resource for people to locate combat treatises online:
http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/phpBB2/index.php?c=6
This resource is going to be constantly updated, so please feel free to contribute to it.
Regards,
Matt
Hi Matt,
Great Resource! One for the Bookmarks!
Still not having an account on your forums, I would like to point you at this:
http://jfgilles.club.fr/escrime/bibliotheque/petter/index.html
They have larger scans of the images of Petter, and they have the original text pages as well (which of course is way more valuable than a translation :p ).
The linked site has more manuscripts (linked) here:
http://jfgilles.club.fr/escrime/bibliotheque/
But you likely have those (and possibly this site itself) already on your list!
See you soon, and don't forget; If wars were won by feasting, or victory by song...
Great Resource! One for the Bookmarks!
Still not having an account on your forums, I would like to point you at this:
http://jfgilles.club.fr/escrime/bibliotheque/petter/index.html
They have larger scans of the images of Petter, and they have the original text pages as well (which of course is way more valuable than a translation :p ).
The linked site has more manuscripts (linked) here:
http://jfgilles.club.fr/escrime/bibliotheque/
But you likely have those (and possibly this site itself) already on your list!
See you soon, and don't forget; If wars were won by feasting, or victory by song...
Hey Matt,
Great ressource indeed!
Thanks a lot for sharing.
Cheers,
Julien
Great ressource indeed!
Thanks a lot for sharing.
Cheers,
Julien
cool - thanks!
one little nit to pick:
De Arte Luctandi - Florius (Fiore) c.1410 - um, as far as I have read (unless something very recent has changed this), most Fiore researchers feel this was produced long after Fiore's time (based on the artwork and a few other factors). Possibly post 1450, and closer to Vadi's works.
I'd be interested to find out if this view has changed.
one little nit to pick:
De Arte Luctandi - Florius (Fiore) c.1410 - um, as far as I have read (unless something very recent has changed this), most Fiore researchers feel this was produced long after Fiore's time (based on the artwork and a few other factors). Possibly post 1450, and closer to Vadi's works.
I'd be interested to find out if this view has changed.
Hello, I am a Fiore researcher, as you'll find out on our website. The armour shown in 'Florius' is certainly not from 1450, it is early-15thC.
Nobody knows the date of the manuscript yet and only 3 people I know of have studied the manuscript 'in the flesh'.
Regards,
Matt
www.fioredeiliberi.org
Nobody knows the date of the manuscript yet and only 3 people I know of have studied the manuscript 'in the flesh'.
Regards,
Matt
www.fioredeiliberi.org
Matt Easton wrote: |
Hello, I am a Fiore researcher, as you'll find out on our website. The armour shown in 'Florius' is certainly not from 1450, it is early-15thC.
Nobody knows the date of the manuscript yet and only 3 people I know of have studied the manuscript 'in the flesh'. Regards, Matt www.fioredeiliberi.org |
fair enough - I went back and read the SFI thread from shortly after this 'came to light'.
gentlemen,
I have a question - any of these manuals listed in those two forums deal with training for mounted combat - lance, sword, sabre etc?
by the way some wonderful art and print making!
I have a question - any of these manuals listed in those two forums deal with training for mounted combat - lance, sword, sabre etc?
by the way some wonderful art and print making!
Dariusz Dario T. W wrote: |
gentlemen,
I have a question - any of these manuals listed in those two forums deal with training for mounted combat - lance, sword, sabre etc? by the way some wonderful art and print making! |
The treatises by Fiore Dei Liberi (at least the Pissani-Dossi/Novati, Getty and Florius) deal with mounted combat as well as unmounted, armoured and unarmoured. This would be from an early 15th C Italian tradition. I think a few of the German treatises do as well (Paulus Kal springs to mind), but I am not very familiar with them, to be honest.
Matt; you also seem to be missing this one. It's a Dutch rapier manual from 1671. That's about all I know about it though.
http://www.umass.edu/renaissance/lord/pdfs/Bruchius_1671.pdf
There's more pdfs from this site here:
http://www.umass.edu/renaissance/lord/collection.html
I don't know if there's more there you don't have
http://www.umass.edu/renaissance/lord/pdfs/Bruchius_1671.pdf
There's more pdfs from this site here:
http://www.umass.edu/renaissance/lord/collection.html
I don't know if there's more there you don't have
Thanks mate!
Matt
Matt
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