For an Albion spokesperson
Apologies if I've missed this somewhere, but what is the difference in hilt construction betweeen the new version of the Crecy and a Next Gen sword? The reference to threading appears to have gone, and the cross and pommel are described as hammered into place, so it sounds similar to the next gen construction. Nice pictures by the way!
thanks
Geoff
I'm not sure how often the Albion folks visit this board... so you will want to email them with your question. Mike is really good about getting back to people. Lord knows I've asked him a LOT of questions lately and have yet to let up ;)
My theory is that the Mark 2 Crecy is as close to a Next Gen Crecy as we'll get. I did not see mention of a Crecy on the Next Gen page, so they're probably not officially making them a part of that line.
My theory is that the Mark 2 Crecy is as close to a Next Gen Crecy as we'll get. I did not see mention of a Crecy on the Next Gen page, so they're probably not officially making them a part of that line.
| Geoff Wood wrote: |
| For an Albion spokesperson
Apologies if I've missed this somewhere, but what is the difference in hilt construction betweeen the new version of the Crecy and a Next Gen sword? The reference to threading appears to have gone, and the cross and pommel are described as hammered into place, so it sounds similar to the next gen construction. Nice pictures by the way! thanks Geoff Timothy I'm not sure how often the Albion folks visit this board... so you will want to email them with your question. Mike is really good about getting back to people. Lord knows I've asked him a LOT of questions lately and have yet to let up My theory is that the Mark 2 Crecy is as close to a Next Gen Crecy as we'll get. I did not see mention of a Crecy on the Next Gen page, so they're probably not officially making them a part of that line. |
Hi Guys!
You are both right -- we are gradually changing/tweaking all of the FirstGen Albion Mark swords to a traditional construction method and to upgraded/refined hilt components. At this point, virtually all FirstGen Medievals and Vikings have been switched to traditional construction and we are just waiting for new hilt components to be finished on the rest. No major changes, but just some tweaks.
Best,
Howy
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Mr Waddell
Thanks for responding so promptly. I like the look of the new hilt. Is it changes there that account for the slight weight increase, or has the blade been tweaked also?
Geoff
Thanks for responding so promptly. I like the look of the new hilt. Is it changes there that account for the slight weight increase, or has the blade been tweaked also?
Geoff
| Geoff Wood wrote: |
| Mr Waddell
Thanks for responding so promptly. I like the look of the new hilt. Is it changes there that account for the slight weight increase, or has the blade been tweaked also? Geoff |
Hey Geoff!
The blade has been tweaked (Jason and Steve get the credit for that -- some very subtle changes), but the change in weight is from the pommel.
It is a couple of ounces more substantial than the Mark I pommel (and more accurate in dimensions and shape, from an original wax carved by Eric and with Peter's input) -- both the volume of the pommel and the redesign are a direct result of Eric's visit with Peter last summer, browsing museum backrooms.
The Mark I was a great sword (no pun intended -- ok, maybe a little one) but now we feel like Mark II is just a little bit better.
Best,
Howy
| Howard Waddell wrote: |
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Hey Geoff! The blade has been tweaked (Jason and Steve get the credit for that -- some very subtle changes), but the change in weight is from the pommel. It is a couple of ounces more substantial than the Mark I pommel (and more accurate in dimensions and shape, from an original wax carved by Eric and with Peter's input) -- both the volume of the pommel and the redesign are a direct result of Eric's visit with Peter last summer, browsing museum backrooms. |
Hi Howy,
I'm guessing the beefier pommel is the reason for the 2" shift in CoG?
I positively love the new light brown grip- I've always had a preference for the "down & dirty" look. :cool:
I really like this re-do.
The old Crecy was just not quite there for me...this one is difinitely a hit...at least to me. The color option is great too. Will it also be a scabbard option?
The old Crecy was just not quite there for me...this one is difinitely a hit...at least to me. The color option is great too. Will it also be a scabbard option?
| Jeremiah Swanger wrote: | ||
Hi Howy, I'm guessing the beefier pommel is the reason for the 2" shift in CoG? I positively love the new light brown grip- I've always had a preference for the "down & dirty" look. :cool: |
The change in the center of gravity is due to a couple of factors -- the change in the pommel, the blade and a slight shortening of the grip length (bringing it more within historical norms for this type of sword.)
The light brown grip is now one of my favorutes as well -- really gives the look of a sword that has seen some serious use.
Thanks for the great feedback!
Best,
Howy
Will the Riding Sword be tweaked as well?
| Robert Zamoida wrote: |
| Will the Riding Sword be tweaked as well? |
Not as far as I know -- since it is a limited number (and we are almost out of them), and it works well as it is.
Best,
Howy
my question is, will we still be able to purchase the old crecy?
While the new ne is nice, something about the old one appeals to me more then the new one.
While the new ne is nice, something about the old one appeals to me more then the new one.
Great news :)
I think Christian Fletcher was basing his Huntsman off a Crecy blade. Is he using the old Crecy or the new Crecy?
I think Christian Fletcher was basing his Huntsman off a Crecy blade. Is he using the old Crecy or the new Crecy?
it looks like he is using the old one, i could be wrong though
anyone have any idea what exactly the changes to the crecy are?
anyone have any idea what exactly the changes to the crecy are?
Howard had mentioned some very slight modifications to the overall blade design / geometry, and they must be extremely slight indeed as with just looking at the pictures of the new (without the old to compare to), nothing jumps out too much.
The handle was shortened a couple inches, which I like, and there's the new handle wrap color, which I think looks absolutely gorgeous.
However, to be honest, the one thing that jumps out at me is the change in guard design -- the new guard appears to be four sided with ever so slightly angled / rounded edges, where as the old guard was more distinctly octagonal, which I always highly enjoyed the looks of.
Still an absolutely beautiful war sword, to be sure!
The handle was shortened a couple inches, which I like, and there's the new handle wrap color, which I think looks absolutely gorgeous.
However, to be honest, the one thing that jumps out at me is the change in guard design -- the new guard appears to be four sided with ever so slightly angled / rounded edges, where as the old guard was more distinctly octagonal, which I always highly enjoyed the looks of.
Still an absolutely beautiful war sword, to be sure!
Actually the handle was only shortened by a half an inch or so. The pommel is larger (heavier) and the cross is stouter than the original. All of the changes were designed to bring the overall design closer to historical parameters and to improve its handling characteristics.
| Jeremy Scott Steimel wrote: |
| Howard had mentioned some very slight modifications to the overall blade design / geometry, and they must be extremely slight indeed as with just looking at the pictures of the new (without the old to compare to), nothing jumps out too much.
The handle was shortened a couple inches, which I like, and there's the new handle wrap color, which I think looks absolutely gorgeous. However, to be honest, the one thing that jumps out at me is the change in guard design -- the new guard appears to be four sided with ever so slightly angled / rounded edges, where as the old guard was more distinctly octagonal, which I always highly enjoyed the looks of. Still an absolutely beautiful war sword, to be sure! |
In addition to what Harlan has mentioned, the guard was shortened one inch for asthetic reasons (would have been overpowering with the 1/2" taken off the grip), and the lift on the fuller was lengthened (again for asthetic, and historical reasons).
The fuller change was the only change that was made to the blade. This was done some time ago, so all the Crecy blades that Christian has ever gotten from us reflect this.
| Jeremy Scott Steimel wrote: |
| Howard had mentioned some very slight modifications to the overall blade design / geometry, and they must be extremely slight indeed as with just looking at the pictures of the new (without the old to compare to), nothing jumps out too much.
The handle was shortened a couple inches, which I like, and there's the new handle wrap color, which I think looks absolutely gorgeous. However, to be honest, the one thing that jumps out at me is the change in guard design -- the new guard appears to be four sided with ever so slightly angled / rounded edges, where as the old guard was more distinctly octagonal, which I always highly enjoyed the looks of. Still an absolutely beautiful war sword, to be sure! |
Hey Jeremy!
The guard is still octagonal -- it may be that it just doesn't come across in the photos we have up on the site (those are just quick and dirty photos-- we'll put some better ones up soon.) The corners are beveled the same as before (if not a little more so)
Here are a couple more photos from that quick shoot that show the guard and the fuller lift Jason referred to.
Thanks for the kind words!
Best,
Howy
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Hey all.
My friend and i were looking at the new crey's grip.
from the photos it looks like the grip was reshaped a bit from the first crecy, in addition to being shortened the inch or so.
thanks in advance for input.
My friend and i were looking at the new crey's grip.
from the photos it looks like the grip was reshaped a bit from the first crecy, in addition to being shortened the inch or so.
thanks in advance for input.
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