Posts: 3,646 Location: Midwest
Sat 28 Aug, 2004 2:56 pm
| Chad Arnow wrote: |
| Joe Fults wrote: | Chad...from the picture....I can't tell the oxblood from the brown. I can tell the light brown though.
I guess we all just need to emphaze more reddish and less brownish when we want that. |
Joe,
On this monitor, there's a definite difference. The oxblood has a lot of maroon, while the brown looks, well, brown. :) Based on what I can see from that pic on Albion's site, my grip looks to be a darker brown than their brown.
As I said, it's a little different than what I expected, but not enough of an issue to warrant having it re-done right now. |
I have some visual problems with red, so that may be why I'm missing the difference. I tend to need things to be very VERY distinctly red to tell the difference.
Posts: 11,553 Location: San Francisco
Sat 28 Aug, 2004 2:59 pm
| Chad Arnow wrote: |
| Joe Fults wrote: | Chad...from the picture....I can't tell the oxblood from the brown. I can tell the light brown though.
I guess we all just need to emphaze more reddish and less brownish when we want that. |
Joe,
On this monitor, there's a definite difference. The oxblood has a lot of maroon, while the brown looks, well, brown. :) Based on what I can see from that pic on Albion's site, my grip looks to be a darker brown than their brown.
As I said, it's a little different than what I expected, but not enough of an issue to warrant having it re-done right now. |
Same here, on my monitor, Chad. I remember being at the Atlanta Blade Show with you at Albion's booth while you were contemplating grip colors. You were shown an oxblood sample and that is what you chose. That that time, the Oxblood color was quite a bit more red/burgundy than your sword has on it now. It's also quite different than the Oxblood on a review sample sword I have here right now. As Eric says, there's variance in the color and whatnot, but in this case, I do see it to be quite a big variance. Still quite attractive though!
Having seen as many Albion swords as I've seen and noting the differences in recipies for colors, I think it's safe to say that the Albion oxblood is quite a bit more brown than consumers are used to seeing when compared to what other companies call oxblood acorss industries: sword, furniture, shoe, or what have you.
Posts: 11,553 Location: San Francisco
Sat 28 Aug, 2004 3:04 pm
| Steve Fabert wrote: |
| Eric McHugh wrote: |
You mentioned "lawyer's office furniture" oxblood...are you sure it is ox-blood? :p |
The oxblood grip on my FirstGen Gaddhjalt is a close match for the leather chairs it hangs over in my law office, so I guess the color can be fairly called "lawyer's office furniture". Both have a definite red cast to them, like dark brick, but much more brown than the red grip on my Crecy. Albion's brown grips are noticeably darker, nearly black in some light. I suspect the individual variation from one piece of leather to another may account for the comparatively brownish appearance of this sword. |
Albion changed their oxblood recipe fairly drastically since the First Gen's were released. What they now call "Magenta" is a bit more like what was Oxblood back then.
Posts: 128 Location: Chesterland, Ohio
Sat 28 Aug, 2004 6:22 pm
Chad, Congrats on a fine looking sword. I hope it brings you a lot of enjoyment. Sorry I won't be at the Ohio gathering to see it in person.
Posts: 9,546 Location: Dayton, OH
Sat 28 Aug, 2004 6:28 pm
| M. Taylor wrote: |
| Chad, Congrats on a fine looking sword. I hope it brings you a lot of enjoyment. Sorry I won't be at the Ohio gathering to see it in person. |
Thanks! It's already brought me enjoyment, and I'm sure there will be much more of that to come.
We'll have plenty of other Ohio area gatherings over the next few years, I'm sure. Hope to see you at future events!
Posts: 250
Sun 29 Aug, 2004 9:45 am
Humidity is a huge factor, but You also have to remember when dealing with organic materials the composition may not always be the same. What if that cow had a scar? thickness of leather ........ another factor
Honestly Chad, that first hilt closeup picture you posted looked BLACK in my monitor.
Posts: 11,553 Location: San Francisco
Sun 29 Aug, 2004 10:16 am
| David Stokes wrote: |
| What if that cow had a scar? . |
Awww, poor cow!
Posts: 9,546 Location: Dayton, OH
Sun 29 Aug, 2004 10:23 am
| David Stokes wrote: |
| Honestly Chad, that first hilt closeup picture you posted looked BLACK in my monitor. |
David,
It is a pretty rich, dark brown with (very) small hints of burgundy.
As far as it looking black, my pics, as Nathan knows :), usually come out with a little color skewing as a result of my camera and lighting setup.
Posts: 230 Location: New Joisey
Sun 29 Aug, 2004 11:14 am
Looked black in mine too, made me concerned for the oxblood wrap on my Viceroy.
Posts: 395
Sun 29 Aug, 2004 5:51 pm
I must agree on the black quality of oxblood. I ordered a Vinland and the wrap looked black. And really looks black in photos. But in sunlight you can definitely see the brownish red quality very much like old dried blood. Even moreso when the sword is in it's brown sheath. Very odd. :)
Posts: 559 Location: Stillwater N.J.
Mon 30 Aug, 2004 5:56 am
The oxblood on my Baron was pretty much what I expected, a deep red hue with hints of brown and black. I ordered my Sovereign with a brown grip but asked Mike if they could make it a few shades lighter than norm. It actually shows hints of red so the grip colors between both swords are very close. Anyway, I don't mind this at all and in some respect it makes each sword unique since the color is more or less custom depending on how the leather and dye react. My Viceroy will have a deep purple or plum grip so let's see how that turns out :D
Posts: 230 Location: New Joisey
Mon 30 Aug, 2004 7:35 am
Gary:
That was the other color scheme I was thinking of and after reading your post I've decided to switch to the dark plum/purple as well.
I think it'll go nicely with the blackened fittings.
Posts: 353 Location: NJ, US
Mon 30 Aug, 2004 8:03 am
I like the oxblood as it is, very deep, rusty red. Looks like ... blood! ;)
I at first thought the grip was black. Maybe that's my penchant for black/bronze combinations. I love the all-bronze hilt work :) One day soon, I'll have a Sovereign with an ultra-purdy plum grip and bronze pommel... might be too fancy for the bulldog buckler-sword!
Posts: 559 Location: Stillwater N.J.
Mon 30 Aug, 2004 9:47 am
| Thomas Jason wrote: |
Gary:
That was the other color scheme I was thinking of and after reading your post I've decided to switch to the dark plum/purple as well.
I think it'll go nicely with the blackened fittings. |
Hi Thomas,
Well, actually the Viceroy arrived at my doorstep no more than an hour ago :D
What I can tell you about the grip color is that it is a very dark plum. In some light it appears as a deep burgundy to black. So it's less purple than I imagined but still very, very nice. This was an experiment so I knew it might have wound different than what I had in my head.
As for the sword, it's all I expected and much more. Your going to be thrilled with yours I promise :D
Posts: 230 Location: New Joisey
Mon 30 Aug, 2004 10:00 am
Excellent, that sounds perfect!
Please post pics!
Posts: 395
Mon 30 Aug, 2004 12:19 pm
Here's my Sovereign:
Posts: 329
Mon 30 Aug, 2004 1:47 pm
Nice pics and nice sword. I can't wait to handle this one at the Round Table. I know Shane Allee was interested int his one also. We'll all like to see this little baby.
If nothing else works for you, dye-wise, I can send you home from the Round Table with some nice thin undyed oak-tannned leather I have on hand, and a catlog that has some dyes and stains---you could give it a shot as a project for yourself?
Anyways, looking forward to seeing this one "in the steel"
Posts: 9,546 Location: Dayton, OH
Mon 30 Aug, 2004 1:50 pm
| Nathan Bell wrote: |
Nice pics and nice sword. I can't wait to handle this one at the Round Table. I know Shane Allee was interested int his one also. We'll all like to see this little baby.
If nothing else works for you, dye-wise, I can send you home from the Round Table with some nice thin undyed oak-tannned leather I have on hand, and a catlog that has some dyes and stains---you could give it a shot as a project for yourself?
Anyways, looking forward to seeing this one "in the steel" |
Nate,
Thanks for the compliments. I'll definitely bring this one along. As I said above, the grip is fine. I originally ordered brown, then changed to ox-blood, and almost had Mike change it back to brown. It's kind of in-between, so I got both colors. :)
I expected a little more maroon/burgundy, but it looks nice like it is. Thanks, though. :)
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