6 New Basket-hilts
Just appeared on the website today. I'm glad to see that the business is still continued to be run after the passing of the late Michael D. Long.
These folks have 1st class customer service. They have never once not replied to one of my emails, or denied me additional pictures of their smallswords. ;)
http://www.michaeldlong.net
SCOTTISH BASKET HILTED OFFICERS BACKSWORD 1770
$3,675.75
MILITARY BASKET HILT OF FINELY FORMED STEEL, WITH DOWNTURNED REAR QUILLON FISHSKIN COVERED GRIP WITH WHITE METAL TURKS HEADS, RETAINS ITS RED LINES TO THE GUARD. 34 INCH SINGLE EDGED BLADE WITH DOUBLE FULLERS. SOME LIGHT PITTING TO BLADE
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SCOTTISH BASKET HILTED BROADSWORD C1760
$2,733.25
FINE CHISELLED STEEL GUARD AND POMMEL, LEATHER COVERED GRIP WITH BRASS TWIST WIRE, 34.5 INCH BLADE WITH DOUBLE FULLERS, ENGRAVED IN FULLERS 'ANDREA-FERARA'
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SCOTTISH BASKET HILTED BROADSWORD C1760
$2,733.25
FINE CHISELLED STEEL GUARD AND POMMEL, LEATHER COVERED GRIP WITH BRASS TWIST WIRE, 34.5 INCH BLADE WITH DOUBLE FULLERS, ENGRAVED IN FULLERS 'ANDREA-FERARA'
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SCOTTISH BASKET HILTED BROADSWORD C1780
$3,110.25
PIERCED STEEL BASKET FISHSKIN COVERED GRIP WITH BRASS WIRE AND TURKS HEAD KNOTS, 33 INCH DOUBLE EDGED BLADE WITH CENTRAL FULLER STAMPED WITH MALTESE CROSS ARMOURERS STAMP
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$3,110.25
PIERCED STEEL BASKET FISHSKIN COVERED GRIP WITH BRASS WIRE AND TURKS HEAD KNOTS, 33 INCH DOUBLE EDGED BLADE WITH CENTRAL FULLER STAMPED WITH MALTESE CROSS ARMOURERS STAMP
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BASKET HILTED HORSEMANS BROADSWORD
$2,921.75
CIRCA 1700 CHISELLED STEEL BASKET AND POMMEL GUARD WITH PIERCED HEARTS, LEATHER COVERED GRIP WITH BRASS TURKS HEAD KNOTS, 33 INCH STRAIGHT DOUBLE EDGED BLADE WITH MULTI FULLERS AND ENGRAVED SOLINGEN
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BASKET HILTED HORSEMANS BROADSWORD
$2,921.75
CIRCA 1700 CHISELLED STEEL BASKET AND POMMEL GUARD WITH PIERCED HEARTS, LEATHER COVERED GRIP WITH BRASS TURKS HEAD KNOTS, 33 INCH STRAIGHT DOUBLE EDGED BLADE WITH MULTI FULLERS AND ENGRAVED SOLINGEN
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ENGLISH BASKET HILTED BROADSWORD C1620
$2,544.75
PIERCED IRON BASKET, FISHSKIN COVERED GRIP BUN SHAPED POMMEL, 35 INCH STRAIGHT SINGLE EDGED BLADE WITH FULLER METALWORK WITH OVERALL PITTING
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ENGLISH BASKET HILTED BROADSWORD C1620
$2,544.75
PIERCED IRON BASKET, FISHSKIN COVERED GRIP BUN SHAPED POMMEL, 35 INCH STRAIGHT SINGLE EDGED BLADE WITH FULLER METALWORK WITH OVERALL PITTING
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SCOTTISH BASKET HILTED BROADSWORD C1740
$2,356.25
BLACKENED IRON BASKET THE BARS JOINED WITH 'S's AND PIERCED HEARTS, FISHSKIN COVERED GRIP WITH BRASS TURKS HEADS, 36 INCH DOUBLE EDGED BLADE ENGRAVED ANDREA-FARARA, BLADE WITH CRACK TO ONE SIDE
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BLACKENED IRON BASKET THE BARS JOINED WITH 'S's AND PIERCED HEARTS, FISHSKIN COVERED GRIP WITH BRASS TURKS HEADS, 36 INCH DOUBLE EDGED BLADE ENGRAVED ANDREA-FARARA, BLADE WITH CRACK TO ONE SIDE
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Wow .... a few of those are in amazing shape !
And the prices are very reasonable ( which figures since I'm in no position to snatch one up :-( Never fails !
Hmm .... maybe I need a red liner for my Eljay "Pinch of Snuff" *g*
(did'ya notice how thin the metal is on the POS's wrist guard .... yikes !)
Nice job alerting us so quickly , Stephen ! Make sure you upload the pic's to our data base, as they could disappear if sold !
Why wasn't I born rich again ?? *sigh* Mac
And the prices are very reasonable ( which figures since I'm in no position to snatch one up :-( Never fails !
Hmm .... maybe I need a red liner for my Eljay "Pinch of Snuff" *g*
(did'ya notice how thin the metal is on the POS's wrist guard .... yikes !)
Nice job alerting us so quickly , Stephen ! Make sure you upload the pic's to our data base, as they could disappear if sold !
Why wasn't I born rich again ?? *sigh* Mac
Hi Mac,
Thomas McDonald wrote:
Yeah, I noticed that too, sorta scary isn't.
I was thinking about how your "pinch of snuff" would look with a red liner. I think if the ray skin were a more subdued color it would look great. I feel that the green ray skin and ribbon wrapped handle calls out to be seen in all its splendor.
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No problem, will do, I check my bookmarks frequently for anything new & save any pictures of my interest. You wouldn't believe how many smallsword pictures I have.
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| Hmm .... maybe I need a red liner for my Eljay "Pinch of Snuff" *g*
(did'ya notice how thin the metal is on the POS's wrist guard .... yikes !) |
Yeah, I noticed that too, sorta scary isn't.
I was thinking about how your "pinch of snuff" would look with a red liner. I think if the ray skin were a more subdued color it would look great. I feel that the green ray skin and ribbon wrapped handle calls out to be seen in all its splendor.
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| Nice job alerting us so quickly , Stephen ! Make sure you upload the pic's to our data base, as they could disappear if sold ! |
No problem, will do, I check my bookmarks frequently for anything new & save any pictures of my interest. You wouldn't believe how many smallsword pictures I have.
My goodness.... the first four (the POS, the Glasgow, the S-hilt, and the second Glasgow) look absolutely pristine.....
Wonderful stuff.....
Oh, why wasn't I born rich instead of good looking.... :p
Wonderful stuff.....
Oh, why wasn't I born rich instead of good looking.... :p
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I was thinking about how your "pinch of snuff" would look with a red liner. I think if the ray skin were a more subdued color it would look great. I feel that the green ray skin and ribbon wrapped handle calls out to be seen in all its splendor. |
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Have to admit i live barely an hour from the shop and i really dare not visit for the fear of going credit crazy,
Mac,Is there a link to baskethilt backsword vs baskethilt broadsword comparisons,opinions, or when you have the time, :D
Stephen, any chance you have any info or pics on the Bilbao style sword,circa 1700,
Mac,Is there a link to baskethilt backsword vs baskethilt broadsword comparisons,opinions, or when you have the time, :D
Stephen, any chance you have any info or pics on the Bilbao style sword,circa 1700,
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| Stephen, any chance you have any info or pics on the Bilbao style sword,circa 1700, |
Hi Lee,
It appears that someone has already snatched it up. Anyhow, I don't have any additional pictures of it other than the ones that were on the site.
They had it listed as "Spanish Cup-hilt Rapier." To go into more detail, this kind of sword/rapier is known as a Carribean cup-hilt. They usually are crudely made and have grips of checkered wood, horn, or bone, & generally average 38-45" overall.
To an degree, this hilt can be classified as a variant of hilt type 83 "probably from about 1625-1700 or later" ( (A.V.B. Norman, The Rapier & Smallsword 1460-1820 pg. 156)
Ewart Oakeshott also mentions these swords in "European Weapons and Armour" on pg.169.
Hope this helps,
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36 1/4" blade, 43" overall
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engraved: "no me saques sin rason, no me enbaines sin honor"
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Thank's for the pics, :cool:
Sorry, the pic i saw of the bibao sword was in,
Pictorial historyof swords and bayonet's,
By R,J,Wilkinson,latham,
Ian allan publication,
Pic no 39,
Apologies if you were scouring the site for it,my bad,
I thought it looked like a sailguard hilt but the pic is only just off a side angle,sorry but i still have'nt got round to a scanner as yet,
Thank's for the pics, :cool:
Sorry, the pic i saw of the bibao sword was in,
Pictorial historyof swords and bayonet's,
By R,J,Wilkinson,latham,
Ian allan publication,
Pic no 39,
Apologies if you were scouring the site for it,my bad,
I thought it looked like a sailguard hilt but the pic is only just off a side angle,sorry but i still have'nt got round to a scanner as yet,
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Mac,Is there a link to baskethilt backsword vs baskethilt broadsword comparisons,opinions, or when you have the time, :D |
Hi Lee
I don't know of any specific "backsword vs. broadsword" article , persay , but there is always chatter ,regarding this, around the Forums ( a search engine will bring them up )
I've always been of the opinion that either work just fine ..... it's usually the hand that wields it that makes the difference !
But I'll throwout a few thoughts .... not that any are gospel
Backswords seem to be regarded as later period blades , good for use on horseback ( perhaps more forgiving in the cut, while moving ?) The thicker spine / wedge shape, better in the thrust ,more rigid ? Better parrying blade ?( ie: stronger)
Easier to make ? ( I dunno, we'll have to ask one of our smiths) Less problematic when forging them curved ?
Broadswords , with their double-edge, give you that supreme advantage of having two sides to cut with *g* , as well as
the old "if one becomes damaged I got another" train of thought :-) , which I suppose could prove true, given the situation !
( although alot of backswords have sharpened false edges, too ! )
A deadlier backhand , maybe a better cleaver ( less mass, thickness-wise, going thru a target)
Anyone else , please jump right in , Mac
Hi Mac,
The hand that wield's it,bang on i guess mainly down to preference,
As i'm yet to see a basket backsword in the flesh so to speak i was thinking along the lines of heavy cavalry sabre as opposed to broadsword for comparison,
Any evidence of the backsword having a less substantial basket to make it a little easier while in the saddle?
The hand that wield's it,bang on i guess mainly down to preference,
As i'm yet to see a basket backsword in the flesh so to speak i was thinking along the lines of heavy cavalry sabre as opposed to broadsword for comparison,
Any evidence of the backsword having a less substantial basket to make it a little easier while in the saddle?
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| Hi Mac,
The hand that wield's it,bang on i guess mainly down to preference, As i'm yet to see a basket backsword in the flesh so to speak i was thinking along the lines of heavy cavalry sabre as opposed to broadsword for comparison, Any evidence of the backsword having a less substantial basket to make it a little easier while in the saddle? |
Hi Lee
Backsword baskets came in a variety of sizes , just as the broadsword ones did ......
In fact some of the baskets may have been at the larger end of the tape measure (broadswords too) as some of the cavalry officers, etc., wore gloves ( at least that is the speculation I've heard ! )
I do tend to find the backswords a little quicker in the hand ..... but that's just my opinion, based on the pieces I currently own, or have handled ...... your mileage may vary !
Mac
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