Before I get to the Graz I'd like to mention why I'm placing this post here. I have been saddened recently to see several of my favourite web sources disappear. Amongst them a unique site from Belgium on historic Archery competion events which they had uniquely recreated in its many and varying forms. Also that wonderful lady from Kwantlen University in the states who had that great site on medieval flags. Im not evrn sure if that guy stll has the shots up of the only two known existing Viking saddles in the world. (Shame someone didnt do a drawing of them )
Anyway, I remembered that these shots from Graz are also from a University (in Australia) albeit from one of the professors there, but, hey, you never know...right ? So even though I am sure that most of you would know these shots ...(101 pics if I remember rightly ! ).....there may be some that havent seen this extensive, large and fairly clear record of this unique collection of arms and armour. Good thing that they just locked the doors in the 17th Cent. and thus preserved, i am led to believe, the only intact complete large armoury in the world. If you notice on page two, there are a couple of ladies gowns done as armour ! I assume they must have been done as an armourers "promotional" project or else by armouring apprentices much as they do special projects today.
The images can be viewed by a zoomable (Java) viewer, but if you wirh to "view" normal jpegs, you can turn the Panorama viewer off at the top of the page.
Enjoy !
http://rubens.anu.edu.au/raid5/austria/graz/m...nd_armour/
WOW! That is nice. Thanks alot for the pictures. I relate completely with the feeling that many good sites are disappearing offline with great info. Thanks for putting this one up!
RPM
RPM
unreal.........very very nice photo's of armour and arms...................love the zweihanders... !!!
thank you very very much
Greg
thank you very very much
Greg
hmm... now if that was in my backyard, I could share with all of you...
The one item I find most interesting is the womans dress. Does anyone know if that was meant to actually be worn as some kind of armor, simply made as a sculpture, what? I don't see any articulations anywhere.
More wonderful Graz photos, and an explanation of the dress, here:
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...light=graz
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...light=graz
Thanks Sean that's very interesting.
Still more:
http://www.zlate-ostroge.org/galerije/graz_g2003.htm
I heard recently that photography is no longer allowed in the armoury, so this may be all we have, folks. Print what you want for future reference. The interactive CD is secured--can't grab images for posting.
http://www.zlate-ostroge.org/galerije/graz_g2003.htm
I heard recently that photography is no longer allowed in the armoury, so this may be all we have, folks. Print what you want for future reference. The interactive CD is secured--can't grab images for posting.
Your correct Sean. One of our fellas just came back from Austria last week and made the trip while there and theres is no photography allowed any longer in Graz.
| Allan Senefelder wrote: |
| Your correct Sean. One of our fellas just came back from Austria last week and made the trip while there and theres is no photography allowed any longer in Graz. |
So do they allow sketch pads and pencil renderings ! I guess it's their right to restrict access but it seems contrary to a mandate to educate as widely as possible. :( I personally think it's stupid unless they offer or plan to offer extensive documentation themselves as photo books or on-line resources.
( Oh, a comment on restrictive museum policies in general and not just applied to Graz. )
| Jean Thibodeau wrote: | ||
So do they allow sketch pads and pencil renderings ! I guess it's their right to restrict access but it seems contrary to a mandate to educate as widely as possible. :( I personally think it's stupid unless they offer or plan to offer extensive documentation themselves as photo books or on-line resources. ( Oh, a comment on restrictive museum policies in general and not just applied to Graz. ) |
Nay, Jean, you are to blame because you don't understand: they are just protecting armors from curious and inquisitive people.
Next step will be to blindfold visitors before entering the collection, so the protection from pryng eyes will be complete.
Also, buryng forever the armors in a deep, sealed salt mine should be considered.
If you can, find this this book and buy it, lots of sword porn there for you all.
Shiny Shapes, Arms and Armor from the Zeughaus of Graz
Shiny Shapes, Arms and Armor from the Zeughaus of Graz
Photography IS allowed in Graz. But, you would have to contact the museum beforehand about it, and probably sign a contract. The reason photography is not allowed without a permit is because someone used the pictures taken in the armoury in a newspaper article about violence, which was not at all good PR for the museum.
Johan Schubert Moen
Johan Schubert Moen
That's good news, Johan! Many thanks for the clarification.
Damn! Wish i'd known that before Jason went over.
| Johan S. Moen wrote: |
| Photography IS allowed in Graz. But, you would have to contact the museum beforehand about it, and probably sign a contract. The reason photography is not allowed without a permit is because someone used the pictures taken in the armoury in a newspaper article about violence, which was not at all good PR for the museum.
Johan Schubert Moen |
Now that is a valid reason to limit what one can do with pics as this is a good example of when the media distorts reality to support some agenda rather than being honest, transparent and ethical.
Now it would be nice if they allow for fair educational uses in their contract and not just for personal use. ( No idea if this can be negotiated when asking for permission ? )
| Jean Thibodeau wrote: |
Now that is a valid reason to limit what one can do with pics as this is a good example of when the media distorts reality to support some agenda rather than being honest, transparent and ethical.
Now it would be nice if they allow for fair educational uses in their contract and not just for personal use. ( No idea if this can be negotiated when asking for permission ? )[/quote]
Not sure about that, but I assume they would allow educational use of the pictures as long as you clarify it with them beforehand, and possibly send them a copy of the material afterwards.
Johan Schubert Moen
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