Posts: 620 Location: Bjästa, Sweden
Thu 18 Aug, 2005 10:54 pm
What would you call this?
I just wonder if it is a name to put to a weapon like this?
I have plans of letting somebody make one for me but what should I call the darn thing??
The picture is from the solothuner manual of late 1500c...[/img]
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Posts: 411 Location: Göteborg Sweden
Fri 19 Aug, 2005 1:35 am
:cool: I am a beginner so here it comes: :eek:
Needlesword/ Nålsvärd
Nailsword/ Spiksvärd
Mordern Shortspear/ Mordernt Kortspjut
Wrestling Sword/ Brottar svärd
:p You don't need to thank me Martin :D :lol:
They really have a hard fighting look, don't they.
Posts: 122
Fri 19 Aug, 2005 5:15 am
Toothpick of Death has a nice ring to it.
I remember seeing these on the Discovery Channel but I for get what they were called.
....and thus is posted another useless comment fueled by caffine.
Posts: 116
Fri 19 Aug, 2005 5:22 am
Wicked! :)
Please post pictures!
You realize, that as this looks like a tournament piece, that you have to have to two made... Not to have two would be like having one dueling pistol. ;)
Posts: 1,576 Location: Bergen, Norway
Fri 19 Aug, 2005 7:10 am
A halfswordsword?
Posts: 5,981 Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Fri 19 Aug, 2005 7:37 am
How about these?
Grosse Scheibendolch
Scheibenspiess
Scheibenschwert
If I've correctly interpreted and assembled the German, these mean "Big
Rondel Dagger", "Rondel Spear" and "Rondel Sword" and describe this weapon pretty well. I want to make clear that these words are my own invention. I have no idea what this weapon might have actually been called.
Posts: 137 Location: In a comfy chair
Fri 19 Aug, 2005 8:26 am
I would call it Mr. Stabby, but I'm sure there is a much more historical name for it out there. Could be some kind of estoc I suppose.
Posts: 5,981 Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Fri 19 Aug, 2005 9:50 am
| J. Padgett wrote: |
| I would call it Mr. Stabby, but I'm sure there is a much more historical name for it out there. |
Herr Stabi
:lol:
Posts: 411 Location: Göteborg Sweden
Sat 20 Aug, 2005 2:14 am
I have look close on them and they look like they are single edged these.......
Thallhofer two hands knife's
:idea: or just to stay around Östersund: Biglake monster slaughter knife's :D
Posts: 455 Location: Thailand
Sat 20 Aug, 2005 4:26 am
The Scots had a very similar weapon called a Jedburgh Staff. Some of theirs had a knucklebow attached to the disc guard.
--ElJay
Posts: 1,088 Location: Finland
Sat 20 Aug, 2005 4:30 am
Could they possibly be broken glaives (or other similar polearms)?
Posts: 90 Location: Sacramento, CA
Sat 20 Aug, 2005 12:22 pm
Re: What would you call this?
See, this is the problem with th modern mind trying to interpret historical flora and fuana, the constant need to classify and name things. Likely back then they just told their squires to go get the "big stabby things" for the next part of the duel/challenge and left it at that.
Cheers
Jim
Posts: 500 Location: Austin, TX
Sat 20 Aug, 2005 12:36 pm
These remind me of the "Uklwas" of the Zulu culture.
Brian M
Posts: 3,646 Location: Midwest
Sat 20 Aug, 2005 1:34 pm
Can opener
Posts: 3,646 Location: Midwest
Sat 20 Aug, 2005 1:35 pm
Re: What would you call this?
| Martin Wallgren wrote: |
I just wonder if it is a name to put to a weapon like this?
I have plans of letting somebody make one for me but what should I call the darn thing??
The picture is from the solothuner manual of late 1500c...[/img] |
Martin,
Do you have more of the original illustration?
Posts: 650 Location: Lacey, Wa US
Sat 20 Aug, 2005 3:21 pm
Yes indeedy more of the pic might help. Are they fighting to the death or playing at wasters? Whats the context? They look cool as heck regardless, but for no valid reason I think they're wasters.
Posts: 2,160 Location: New Hampshire
Sat 20 Aug, 2005 3:39 pm
Panzerstecher or Dreiecker (heavy estocs)
From ARMA's site :
The Solothurner Fechtbuch, c. 1423
http://www.thehaca.com/Manuals/Solothurner.htm
"The book also shows specialty weapons such as the Panzerstecher or Dreiecker (heavy estocs) with round guards and long padded ricasso grips."
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Posts: 146
Sat 20 Aug, 2005 4:07 pm
except they don't look like any NORMAL estocs we've ever seen, and as for Panzerstecher...
Hmm... Panzerstecher. lit: "armour piercer"
GIS reveals something interesting. From
www.armabohemia.cz , an exact reproduction of a museum piece...
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Looks like they could definately be in the same family. Panzerstechers they be! :D
Posts: 1,088 Location: Finland
Sun 21 Aug, 2005 12:46 am
| David R. Glier wrote: |
| Looks like they could definately be in the same family. Panzerstechers they be! :D |
Well, they do look quite the armour piercers to me, so why not... :)[/i]
Posts: 819 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
Sun 21 Aug, 2005 5:32 am
I was gonna say they were broken glaives or perhaps the shortest-but-meanest looking lances I've ever seen. ;)
-Ted
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