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So, Murad the IV was the Ottoman Emperor in the first half of 17th century, being contemporary to the 30 Years' War. I mainly wanted to show this portray, for you can see the use of latten and what appears to be pearls in the mail and in the rerebrace.

Also, to ask you if there is any evidence for Islamic armor being completely hidden by dresses (I'm excluding Khazagand/Jazerant mail-cloth armor), for when I read Heath's Armies of Middle Ages he said the thesis of undergarment armor was debunked by the time he wrote his book (1970-80's). Murad's armor is obviously not hidden, but it's an interesting match anyways.

here is an amusing and interesting anecdote about armor by Usamah Ibn Munqih:

"Salah Al din (Saladin) stood in his place until a part of the army joined him. He then said, "Put on your armor". The majority of those did so while I remained standing by his side. After a while he said again, 'How many times do I have to say "Put on your Armor?'' I said 'Oh my Lord, surely thou does not mean me?' 'Surely' said he. I replied 'By Allah, surely I cannot put on anything more. We are in the early part of the night, and my quilted jerkin (kuzaghand) is furnished with two coats of mail, one on top of the other. As soon as I see the enemy I shall put it on.' Salah al Din did not reply, and we set off.

In the morning we found ourselves near Dumayr. Salah-al Din (Saladin) said to me 'Shall we not dismount and eat something? I am hungry and have been up all night.' I replied 'I shall do what thou orderest.' So we dismounted, and no sooner than we had set foot on the ground, when he said 'Where is thy jerkin?' Upon my order, my attendant produced it. Taking it out from it's leather bag, I took my knife and ripped it at the breast and disclosed the side of the two coats of mail. The jerkin enclosed a Frankish coat of mail extending to the bottom of it, with another coat on top reaching as far as the middle. Both were equipped with the proper linings, felt pads, rough silk, and rabbits hair.'

Reviving the topic because I found another Sultan in armor:

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https://www.sothebys.com/en/articles/from-paris-to-tehran-two-exhibitions-highlight-cross-cultural-relations
It's Sultan Mutafah II, but the depiction says it was made in the 18th century, so I have no idea how accurate it is for an sultan or other top noble of the ottoman empire, since it's a short sleeved hauberk.

But even early 16th century works shows relatively light armor, as in Sukhra (d. 493) depiction in The Persian book of kings, c. 1522

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https://books.google.com.br/books?id=nCk_AwAAQBAJ&lpg=PA336&dq=Shah+Tahmasp+Shahnama+tehran+museum+of+contemporary+art&pg=PA332&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Shah%20Tahmasp%20Shahnama%20tehran%20museum%20of%20contemporary%20art&f=false