Hello everybody, I'm new to this forum, and I'm an HEMA and HMB figther.
But the hmb autenticity comitee is pissing everyone for the autenticity of neck protection (plate mandatory, but sometime not compatible with the period)

I realy need some help to find what kind of neck protection they used (in northen italy) during de 14th century.
The main reason it's because the "round" rondel on the neck is forbidden, and the examples they are using are from mid to late 15th CE.


I've looked trough the forum, but i dind't find any topic about and google isn't helping.

So, i've had to ask for specialists.


Thanks in advance and forgive any spelling error, please

In Iberia we had some nice rigid gorgets, 1340-1360. (Puerta Preciosa, Pamplona cathedral) ;)

Achieving both high "accuracy" and safety will be always hard, as there are better protections than the "transitional" style (I don' t know why it has such popularity). But of course, I am biased, as a reenactor I work to be accurate, and as HEMA trainer, I want to be safe, so I tend to see the "medieval" combat as having contradictory requirements and little in common with both of my hobbys.

Could you not hide a solid neck defence under the aventail of your bassinet?

Jason

Mail collars ARE rigid. They were either made from weaves dense enough to prevent the mail from flexing or they were reinforced with leather thongs, which were pulled tight to create the required rigidity.

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Mart Shearer wrote:

Filipe Prestes wrote: I realy need some help to find what kind of neck protection they used (in northen italy) during de 14th century. Mail standards -"gorgieretti", and bascinets with mail aventails - "bacinetto con gorgiera" seem most common. https://books.google.at/books?id=IPQRAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA315&lpg=PA315&dq=Codice+degli+stipendiari+della+repubblica+di+Firenze+Dall%27Arch.&source=bl&ots=ICGCg4ABvA&sig=SYuQ06tA0uvZwNBu0prL3rVb0Sc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=IiAXUcJzx77aBYPOgdgB&sqi=2&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Codice%20degli%20stipendiari%20della%20repubblica%20di%20Firenze%20Dall'Arch.&f=false

Yeah, but the rules says that you must bem protected by "plate" armor , for safety reasons