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Attachments for the metal plate between the blade and handle?
| Mart Shearer wrote: |
| Attachments for the metal plate between the blade and handle? |
Indeed, that is my guess, but i couldn't find any photos to make sure...
Ricardo S wrote
In fact that is a Dudgeon dagger and was a late 16th/early to mid 17th development of the bollock dagger favoured in Northern England and particularly Southern Scotland.
The pins were used from the 15thC onward, though rare, and became common during the early to mid 16thC. They were used to hold the guard plate in place. When I make these daggers I use the pins to keep the parts aligned as I work and assemble them rather than to hold the knife together as such.
I hope that helps
Tod
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| Hi. Does anyone knows what are these pins on this ballock dagger? |
In fact that is a Dudgeon dagger and was a late 16th/early to mid 17th development of the bollock dagger favoured in Northern England and particularly Southern Scotland.
The pins were used from the 15thC onward, though rare, and became common during the early to mid 16thC. They were used to hold the guard plate in place. When I make these daggers I use the pins to keep the parts aligned as I work and assemble them rather than to hold the knife together as such.
I hope that helps
Tod
The decorative rivet heads on the bulbous ends of the ballocks are an attractive feature on a lot of ballock and dudgeon daggers.
You can't see it in this angle, but if you were to look under the curved plate at the end of the grip, you'd likely be able to see the mushroomed ends of the pins.
You can't see it in this angle, but if you were to look under the curved plate at the end of the grip, you'd likely be able to see the mushroomed ends of the pins.
Nice. Thank you very very much for your help guys. That's quite a bit of good information. Thank's a lot!!!
| Nathan Robinson wrote: |
| The decorative rivet heads on the bulbous ends of the ballocks are an attractive feature on a lot of ballock and dudgeon daggers.
You can't see it in this angle, but if you were to look under the curved plate at the end of the grip, you'd likely be able to see the mushroomed ends of the pins. |
Nice, thank you very much Sir. By the way, do you know how did they take measures so that pins are aligned?
| Ricardo S. wrote: | ||
Nice, thank you very much Sir. By the way, do you know how did they take measures so that pins are aligned? |
Simply drill through both the plate and the wood. The rivet holes would probably have been punched in the metal plate before putting it on the grip, so they would have just held it on there and then used a 'birdcage' awl or similar tool to bore the hole for the rivet pins.
| Jeffrey Faulk wrote: | ||||
Simply drill through both the plate and the wood. The rivet holes would probably have been punched in the metal plate before putting it on the grip, so they would have just held it on there and then used a 'birdcage' awl or similar tool to bore the hole for the rivet pins. |
I see. That makes sense and is a good idea punch the pins in the plate before. Thank you a lot!
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