Hello to everybody. That my first topic on forum i hope to be a frequent visitor :D
Forgive me my poor English i'm one of that foreigner who love history.
Let's back to the point. I found something what's look like piece of sword grip whith pommel. I'v done some Google search and i think it is a type R pommel. Am i right?
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It does look like a tang and a pommel. Could you show us the back side where peen should be?
More pictures from top. Its look better in hand than on photo.
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Certainly looks like a Type R pommel + part of a tang. Where was it found and was there anything else found with it or nearby?
Neil
Neil
No doubt.....a sword pommel and tang. A big 'un. Darn interesting. Sweet...........More info!............McM
Thanks all of you for help.
I found this pommel close to Macduff. There was some other things found on that field like coins and cannon balls. I will add some pictures after i will back from my work.
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I found this pommel close to Macduff. There was some other things found on that field like coins and cannon balls. I will add some pictures after i will back from my work.
Best regards.
some of the lowland two-hand swords had such pommels , so that would be my first guess.
Check these threads for more information:
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...ht=swedish
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...ht=swedish
I have speculated that the long lowland swords, with their extreme grip/blade ratio, bear a striking resemblance to some of those Swedish swords. Given the geography and history, it's not hard to imagine some technological crossover going on there. I note with some interest that MacDuff is directly opposite Sweden and Norway.
Sounds like your sword might be associated with a 16th or 17th c. battle, though.
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...ht=swedish
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...ht=swedish
I have speculated that the long lowland swords, with their extreme grip/blade ratio, bear a striking resemblance to some of those Swedish swords. Given the geography and history, it's not hard to imagine some technological crossover going on there. I note with some interest that MacDuff is directly opposite Sweden and Norway.
Sounds like your sword might be associated with a 16th or 17th c. battle, though.
16th c. lowland type at right
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Finds from the same field. I think You might be right Sean.
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Radek.
You probably know this already but if you are detecting around Macduff any finds are protected under Scottish law.
More info can be found here...
http://joanallendetectors.wordpress.com/2012/...n-ireland/
I am possibly teaching you to suck eggs and, if so, I apologise.
Sword pommels, coins and cannon balls in a field sounds quite significant.
J.F.
You probably know this already but if you are detecting around Macduff any finds are protected under Scottish law.
More info can be found here...
http://joanallendetectors.wordpress.com/2012/...n-ireland/
I am possibly teaching you to suck eggs and, if so, I apologise.
Sword pommels, coins and cannon balls in a field sounds quite significant.
J.F.
while also emphasising Jonathan Fletcher's comment I would also add that contacting the Finds Database of The Portable Antiquities Scheme ( www.finds.org.uk ) should also be done (technically, the PAS only covers England, Wales and N. Ireland, and it should go to the Treasure Trove Scotland site... but that's not working.)- as the discoveries include coinage, that is without doubt trove, under UK Law and is required to be reported.
you could also contact the NMS:
Treasure Trove Unit
National Museums of Scotland
Chambers Street
Edinburgh
EH1 1JF
Tel: 0131 247 4355
Email: info@treasuretrovescotland.co.uk
I'd also just note that technically, its probably not a Type R pommel, as its on a post-medieval sword, and therefore not one that really falls under Oakeshott's typology. I think it may be in one of A.V.B Norman's works for the post-medieval, however.
you could also contact the NMS:
Treasure Trove Unit
National Museums of Scotland
Chambers Street
Edinburgh
EH1 1JF
Tel: 0131 247 4355
Email: info@treasuretrovescotland.co.uk
I'd also just note that technically, its probably not a Type R pommel, as its on a post-medieval sword, and therefore not one that really falls under Oakeshott's typology. I think it may be in one of A.V.B Norman's works for the post-medieval, however.
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