I'm wondering about the "chapel de fer" helmet and whether it was considered a knightly armour option.
I see plenty of manuscript illustrations with infantry or men-at-arms on foot wearing them- seems to make sense with the brim adding additional defence from attacks from above, but I also see it on mounted soldiery.
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So, my question is, was the "chapel de fer" style helmet a good choice for a knight or was it a poor/ under-dressed for a knight but fine for a retainer or soldier?
Last edited by M Boyd on Thu 12 Sep, 2013 5:26 am; edited 1 time in total
Although mounted, well armoured warrior doesn't have to be a knight, I don't doubt some knights wanted more visual and breathing freedom and chose open faced helmets, chapel de fer or something else, doesn't really matter...
http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture...272259.jpg
Looks like it made it through...
Looks like it made it through...
I haven't seen those pictures before, and I like them a lot.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Here one can be seen in a lead seal of John II of Castille from 1422:
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And even better:
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From the Real Armerķa de Madrid, attributed to Philip the Handsome...probably the same one depicted in this portrait:
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Ooops, you said knight, not king or emperor :p
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And even better:
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From the Real Armerķa de Madrid, attributed to Philip the Handsome...probably the same one depicted in this portrait:
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Ooops, you said knight, not king or emperor :p
At the Battle of Mansourah, Joinville mentions knights switching to kettle hats because of the heat. Hoffmeyer gives other examples as well.
http://books.google.com/books?id=QmQFYZSMs-EC...mp;f=false
Mildenhall's 1344 account of the English Wardrobe includes a rather richly ornamented kettle hat, which was not made for your average burger.
38 kettle hats, one of hardened leather for the tournament, one of iron with a border of silver, embossed with gilded animals, and 36 of iron,
Then there's the parade version for Charles VI, minus it's enameled badges, retrieved in pieces from a well in the Louvre.
http://www.louvre.fr/en/oeuvre-notices/gilded...charles-vi
http://books.google.com/books?id=QmQFYZSMs-EC...mp;f=false
Mildenhall's 1344 account of the English Wardrobe includes a rather richly ornamented kettle hat, which was not made for your average burger.
38 kettle hats, one of hardened leather for the tournament, one of iron with a border of silver, embossed with gilded animals, and 36 of iron,
Then there's the parade version for Charles VI, minus it's enameled badges, retrieved in pieces from a well in the Louvre.
http://www.louvre.fr/en/oeuvre-notices/gilded...charles-vi
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