I'm trying to find examples of quillon daggers from the 11th to the 14th centuries. Historical examples seem to be as rare as hen's teeth. Below is what I've found so far. Has anyone got any others?
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A picture uploaded to myArmoury (from Chris Poor I think?)
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The original that inspired Nathan's Peter Johnsson
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Chad's repro of Alexander Balliol's dagger
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A picture I downloaded from one of the threads on myArmoury. [ Download ]
Here's a thread on 11th century daggers in general, which is where you got 2 of your images: http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=11375 .
Here's the dagger that inspired my reproduction:
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There are likely more in my books, but that will take some digging.
Here's the dagger that inspired my reproduction:
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There are likely more in my books, but that will take some digging.
Thanks Chad!
Just like contemporary swords, one thing you notice on the antique daggers from this period is how subtle and sophisticated the blade geometries are. Something that the vast, vast majority of repros miss.
Just like contemporary swords, one thing you notice on the antique daggers from this period is how subtle and sophisticated the blade geometries are. Something that the vast, vast majority of repros miss.
Is that inlay I am seeing in the blade of the dagger in the second picture? An interesting detail to include in a possible reproduction.
It very well could be?
Since that's Peter Johnsson's hand in the photo, I guess he'd be the one to ask! ;)
Since that's Peter Johnsson's hand in the photo, I guess he'd be the one to ask! ;)
Here are some more. Some of these might not be typical quillon daggers, but I don't know what else to call them. :)
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13th century. Museo Del Bargello, Florence.
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Museo Del Bargello, Florence.
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Misc. 1 from Peterson's Daggers & Fighting Knives of the Western World.
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Misc. 2 from Peterson's Daggers & Fighting Knives of the Western World.
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Deutsches Historisches Museum. Left example 1300-1325, Burgundian. Right example: 14th century.
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Deutsches Historisches Museum. Captions begin at #52.
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13th century. Museo Del Bargello, Florence.
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Museo Del Bargello, Florence.
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Misc. 1 from Peterson's Daggers & Fighting Knives of the Western World.
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Misc. 2 from Peterson's Daggers & Fighting Knives of the Western World.
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Deutsches Historisches Museum. Left example 1300-1325, Burgundian. Right example: 14th century.
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Deutsches Historisches Museum. Captions begin at #52.
herewith two more.
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It seems that in 11th and 12th century daggers weren't yet popular, or at least got 'missed' in sources, because we don't have that much about them. Though there are still some traces.
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This is from Barcelona and dated to around 1120, it seems.
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This is from Barcelona and dated to around 1120, it seems.
Cornelis, I really like the first dagger in your post. Do you know the provenance or any specifications? Any info would be appreciated :)
Here's a colour pic of one of the daggers from the first picture posted:
X.4 Dagger, late 14th. century (Royal Armouries Leeds UK)
http://collections.royalarmouries.org/index.p...amp;pg=113
Dagger c 1400 (British Museum UK)
http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/search_...mpages=200
Here's a few Antennae Quillon Daggers:
X.1302 Dagger. Probably English, late 14th century (Royal Armouries Leeds UK)
http://collections.royalarmouries.org/index.p...amp;pg=132
There's another pic of this dagger here: http://www.myArmoury.com/review_aa_aunlaz.html
Bayerisches Armeemuseum Ingolstadt Germany:
http://www.armabohemia.cz/imgnew/epees/poignards/dg25v3.jpg
Replica by Arma Bohemia about half way down the page: http://www.armabohemia.cz/Novestr/daggersA.htm
There's also another pic of this dagger on the forums somewhere.
A Rare Medieval Dagger
with Rampant Lion Herald embossed on a heavy iron pommel.
In outstanding excavated condition. Length: 35 cm
13th Century
http://quaero-et-adamo.com/english/antique_daggers.htm
Danny
X.4 Dagger, late 14th. century (Royal Armouries Leeds UK)
http://collections.royalarmouries.org/index.p...amp;pg=113
Dagger c 1400 (British Museum UK)
http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/search_...mpages=200
Here's a few Antennae Quillon Daggers:
X.1302 Dagger. Probably English, late 14th century (Royal Armouries Leeds UK)
http://collections.royalarmouries.org/index.p...amp;pg=132
There's another pic of this dagger here: http://www.myArmoury.com/review_aa_aunlaz.html
Bayerisches Armeemuseum Ingolstadt Germany:
http://www.armabohemia.cz/imgnew/epees/poignards/dg25v3.jpg
Replica by Arma Bohemia about half way down the page: http://www.armabohemia.cz/Novestr/daggersA.htm
There's also another pic of this dagger on the forums somewhere.
A Rare Medieval Dagger
with Rampant Lion Herald embossed on a heavy iron pommel.
In outstanding excavated condition. Length: 35 cm
13th Century
http://quaero-et-adamo.com/english/antique_daggers.htm
Danny
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