Maybe this is the wrong subforum, if indeed it is, I humbly apologise to the moderators.
Does anybody in EU make riveted chain mail? All that I have found is imported indian/pakistanian riveted maille.
NB not aluminium but steel or iron.

Thanks!

Boris

Yes, it was in the wrong sub-forum and has been moved. The Marketplace is not for seeking any kind of advice, only for sales transactions between non-industry craftsmen individuals.

This guy makes chainmail by hand.http://www.gambeson.pl/medieval-on-line-shop/...nmail.html
have seen it in person it looks really good.

hope this helps

http://www.capapie.co.uk/

Might not be the best, but it's cheap!
https://shop.strato.de/epages/245791.sf/secf1baf2edc8/?ObjectPath=/Shops/245791/Categories/KE

Augusto, the Zeughaus does not produce their own maille, this is the typical imported stuff from India.

Boris, did you want to buy a euroeean made maille or get pointers on making your own? Or a bit of both?
From what historical period and variant, flat rings or round and with or without alternating solids?

R Lister wrote:

http://www.capapie.co.uk/

At that low price this has to be GDFB mailles they're selling. I also recognise the photos of the GDFB tools. Nothing wrong with GDFB of course which I like a lot, but it's not all hand made in europe.
Are these perhaps GDFB mailles that have been tailored? Some I've seen that have been turned out very nice indeed.


Europeean hand made mailles (from pre-drawn wire most likely so not all hand made perhaps but close enough) would run at something like €3.000-6.000 depending on size and ring type. Probably add another zero if it also has authentic hand made solids and hand drawn from wrought iron wire rather than steel. But I don't know if anyone really makes these, in europe or outside it to sell. Hard to make a living on I mean. If anyone does make them I'd very much like to know.


The manufacturer Ben listed above that actuallay makes hand made mailles charges "300 Eur for each kilo", a reasonably sized haubergon would be around 10 kg, so 3.000 euro. Very reasonably priced for what you get.
I'm just guessing but probably this is made from pre-drawn steel wire with low enough carbon content to border on being iron in the traditional sense. Probably it's all riveted and no hand made solids, or solids made from industrial washers like everybody making and selling maille uses today, or they'd specify that very clearly since it's a lot of extra work and unique on the market.
The result makes for a very nice maille without the uniform shape ring look.
My friend Niclas makes the same type of maille from iron carbon level steel wire, though I think he charges more but if anyone's interested I can ask him for a quote.

I like that gambeson.pl has some mailles made from 1.2 mm wire thickness rings (just like my friend does) as seen in Gjermundbu and other mailles. Most we see mass produced are 1.5 or even 2 mm wire and can only emulate the very thickest ring types used historically.

Most of the mail offered by gambeson.pl is a bit too light for my taste. While 1.2 mm wire is more than sufficient for mail with a smaller internal diameter (i.e 6 mm), it is quite thin when used for mail with an internal diameter of 10 mm. Such light mail would have not been preferably used as a standalone armour but in conjuction with plate armour.

Note that gambeson.pl also has mail haubergeons with 8 mm/1.2 mm mail. But even that is a bit too light in my opinion.

You could take a look here. I haven't seen it in person, but from what I've heard it's okay enough.
http://www.malienkolders.nl/

i know the guy's from malienkolders.nl great guy's great chainmails, they also make them to your measurements.
butt the are imported from india

btw im looking at things OTHER than the maile but im confused by the way euros are written down i.e the decimal place

59,90 € i see this and because it has a comma, im not sure if that means 59 point 90 i.e nearly 60 euros?

its just i cant help but feel 'this is too good to be true' to have a 60 euro visored sallet.
https://shop.strato.de/epages/245791.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/245791/Products/HESP-DS01-MSZP-2124-VOR

any news? :) I'm very interested in shipping to Italy

The manager from the shop says that the maille should arrive from the manufacturer (Indian, presumably) should arrive by the and of this month. Maybe fot the end of the next one I'll be able to make a review.

Thread resurrection!!

Finally my maille from Zeughaus arrived!

It is great! I ordere ad S size hauberk and it fits me very well. The arms aren't baggy all other reproductions and the mail coif is beautiful (althought a little big for me).

You have to wait, but the price and the quality are woth it!!

I am very familiar with Cap a Pie's maille and I know Mark (the owner) from the trading circuit here in the UK - There I have laid my bias out in the open.

That said, talking to Mark about his maille and maille in general, his passion and knowledge of the subject and about his product is really evident. Its quality is exceptional and good enough for many museums and world class jousters.

Tod