In a discussion elsewhere regarding the famous pommel throwing plate from Gladiatoria, a question was raised about whether there is a historical record of threaded tangs from this period. Just seems unlikely that at the outset of a fight the guy would find a way to somehow break the peen and take it off. How early do threaded tangs start to appear?

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What does the text say under the plate? I can't remember if there's a translation and if I have it. :\

I was just about to add that Nathan. Thanks :) Any translations out there?

Your answer is in here: http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...ria+manual

Hi guys
In an old 2003 thread I think we got back to c. 1575 for a sword with a threaded tang.
It was a baskethilt in the SW11 style, older than the Twysden example, and pictured in Peter Finer's 1995 sale catalog. (attached below)

Eljay, amoung others, came up with some nice examples of this feature.

Mac

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The Hounslow cutlers developed a distinctive threaded nut system in the first half of the 17th c. I'd be surprised if there were not earlier incarnations of that assembly, but that may be the earliest widespread use by a manufacturer. Peening is much easier, so there would have to be a compelling reason to develop a threaded construction. Some of the Hounslow swords have very finely decorated hilts (chasing, inlaid silver, etc.) but these are field weapons, so the idea may simply have been to save and re-use the hilt if the blade was broken in use. Otherwise, the pommel would have to be damaged to some degree during replacement.

I saw a sword with threaded tang in the Real Armeria in Madrid a couple of years ago. As I remember, the sword was dated to around 1500... Unfortunately, I was not allowed to take photographs...

Thanks for all the insights and links, folks. It is very appreciated.