Hello,

I have decided I'm going to get a Type 6 Behmer migration era blade for sparring/training/re-enactment and have been having trouble finding some period examples with whole hilt and blade to base my training sword off of. If anyone would be able to help me out with Type 6 Behmer hilt pictures (materials) and blade dimensions I'd greatly appreciate it. :)

Best regards,

Barrett Hiebert

Are you referring to the type 6 listed here?

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If so, there are a lot of examples of the type out there. Probably the most prominent being the one from Sutton Hoo.

Hi again Barrett, you might like to check out Paul Binns from the UK, I've heard he makes some good quality custom reenactment swords, and judging from his website he is very familiar with migration period sword types.

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=10822

Hey,

Matt Corbin:

Yes I am. I am interested in the 500-650 C one that had widespread use on the continent.

Stephen Curtin:

Thanks for the suggestion.

Antonio Lamadrid:

Thanks for the link but I think all hilt and blade types shown are from the Vendel period 650-750 C.

Best regards,

Barrett Hiebert

Barrett,

I'm pretty sure I've found all these here or on SFI. Might be a few you find inspiring.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/albums/n633/MCor...spiration/

Holy Matt thanks so much for the link!

Best regards,

Barrett Hiebert

Info about the Coombe Sword, that fits in the first c. 500-650 subdivision.

Pages 14 to 20.

http://ads.ahds.ac.uk/catalogue/adsdata/arch-...01_041.pdf

This one seems like a good candidate, that is quite representative for the type:
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n633/MCor...hmer2b.jpg

The original was found in Schonen, Sweden and is now in the Statens Historiska Museum, Stockholm, cat. no, 9822:826 (data from Behmer, 1939)

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It has a typical wide (approx. 48mm remaining), non-tapering blade with a wide (approx. 32mm) fuller.

Hello,

Antonio Lamadrid:

Thanks for the link.

Paul Hansen:

Yes I do agree. From the album Matt gave me I find it the example that I most like. Although I am perplexed as to what material the spacer and handle could of been? I know it consisted of wood but what type of wood would of been likely?

You show the catalogue number for such a blade. Do you know where I'd be able to find more information specifically of this blade?

Best regards,

Barrett Hiebert

Paul:

Alright I found the picture after a little difficulty. Did you find any documents on the link page detailing dimension's of the blade? Taper, width, length? For I can not read the language (swedish???). Also the platings to connect the spacers were commonly made of tilted brass, bronze or silver correct? (I'm going off the description of the hilt material of the Coombs sword that Antonio gave me)

Regards,

Barrett Hiebert

Paul:

Mhm I agree....I would be using this sword as a base for a sparring/training/re-enactment sword so iron would work fine. I do not know of the thread you allude too...maybe I haven't searched enough on SFI but I didn't find it when filtering through to 'death' the old threads. If I could trouble you for a link I'd greatly appreciate it. :)

Regards,

Barrett Hiebert

Here it is:
http://www.swordforum.com/forums/showthread.p...light=xliv

Looks like SFI's search function works again. :)

Ah Paul thanks for the link. I have read it and it looks like your the one who gave the most prudent information for the Behmer Type VI hilt construction. :p I find in the thread they really don't discuss blade dimensions of the example provided.

Regarding "your" post on the 2nd page of that discussion: if I were to give the picture to my smith with the presented ratio (scale) for blade and hilt with ruler he would be able to find the true measurements of the sword from that right?

Also the link is dead, the one in which you present Jeroen's museum findings. :cry:

Regards,

Barrett Hiebert

Paul, thanks for that link to SFI. Knew I'd found those pictures somewhere here or there.

This is one of my favorite swords for the period:

JT Palikko makes a fairly close approximation of that sword as well.

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http://www.kp-art.fi/jt/index_eng.html

Oh la la! Thank's for showing that blade. It looks beautiful!