If you look in this thread http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?p=186825 you can see a sword posted by Hadrian Coffin, said to be from 14th century, England. I have also seen it in an Osprey title, but, I cant seem to find out any more about it. What I would most like to know is, are we sure it's 14th century, and if so how? Also are there more examples of this type, or is it a unique specimen? Thanks in advance for any help.
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I have no idea about that particular specimen but all others of this type I have seen are second half of the 15th century...
Thanks Luka, yes it seems more like, second half of the 15th century, to me aswell. I have seen 1 other example very similar to this one, except without the side guard, and I think this was 15th century aswell, but it's this side guard that I'm most interested in.
Apart from this example, has anyone here ever seen another 15th century sword with a side guard?
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Apart from this example, has anyone here ever seen another 15th century sword with a side guard? |
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Yes indeed, that is a turn of the 15th to 16th century sword of the so-called Wakefield type. I am most excited to see another example, I have been quite interested in this type and it has been diffcult to find pictures or info about them. These are basically just enlarged versions of the side-lug-pommel daggers which Oakeshott says were quite common in France and England around 1470 to 1510. Some examples, like the one shown, have a pommel shaped like a boars head, basically the same shape as the side-lugged but with a little file-work to vaguely indicate the features. Out of time now, I'll try to dig up my research notes and give some info about other examples when I can. I can tell you that my favorite example of the type has a side-lug, which along with quillons, end in little cloven hooves. I think that is a cool little decorative detail, makes me think of these as proto-hangers/hunting swords.
Hi Scot, thanks for posting, looking forward to seeing some of your research.
There are a couple of photos of that sword in Mazansky's, British Basket-Hilted Swords, on page 45, dated to the late 15th century. (Royal Armouries IX.2639) There are a few pictures there of other examples of this "Wakefield " type, all dated as no earlier than the 15th century. Only one of them (from the late 16th century) has a side knuckle guard.
If you contact the Royal Armouries, they can give you more information on that sword, including more photographs.
If you contact the Royal Armouries, they can give you more information on that sword, including more photographs.
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