Posts: 254 Location: Lubbock, TX
Sat 23 Oct, 2010 10:23 am
Sorry for the low resolution of this scan. I thought some of you might be interested in seeing people fighting with and behind pavises. [Pay no attention to the nude mixed bathing on the left side ;)]
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp51/gcoff...an0012.jpg
Posts: 17
Sat 23 Oct, 2010 10:36 am
That is a realy good picture ! I like to see the painting in original size
Posts: 200 Location: Hungary
Sat 23 Oct, 2010 10:59 am
Mike, do you bend or carve the middlepiece?
Posts: 17
Sat 23 Oct, 2010 11:18 am
Hello,
Every original pavaise I looked at, are carved. I never seen a 15. century pavaise who are bend... do you know a piece like that?
Our " standart model " is build like the typical late 15century pavaise. The are two boards from fir for the sides. Then I carve the half round shape for the middle piece out of a lime bar. This is the way like the originals made I examined. Most of the originals are made from different kinds of wood. Fir for the boards and lime for the halfpipe are very comon.
Then I put the side boards with wooden nails on the halfpipe. At last I give the pavaise the shape wit axt and file.
Posts: 112 Location: Upper Silesia
Sat 23 Oct, 2010 11:22 am
Mike G wrote: |
That is a realy good picture ! I like to see the painting in original size |
Unfortunately, this image burned down in 1945.
Posts: 17
Sat 23 Oct, 2010 11:53 am
It´s a shame ! bloody war .
Do you know if is anywere a bigger foto from that painting ? I think that painting with all the details is great. In the middle I see one fighter with a pavaise and another without armour who fighting a sword to handed. I am right ? I never see something before in a painting like that
Posts: 112 Location: Upper Silesia
Sat 23 Oct, 2010 12:52 pm
Germans did a lot of good pictures of this image. Search Bildindex.de. The picture was in Gdansk (Danzig) and shows the siege of Malbork (Marienburg).
Btw
Red army burned the image as fuel (winter).
Posts: 17
Sat 23 Oct, 2010 1:26 pm
Here can you see, the the shiny linseed oil coating.( the closeup picture ) It need just about 10 days to dry. But it works very well and makes the pavaise relatively waterproof.
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Posts: 17
Sun 24 Oct, 2010 4:53 am
Here you can see some action photos of our pavaises. When we use our cannon ;)
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Posts: 5
Sat 01 Jan, 2011 5:51 pm
Linseed oil is great for coating. Mike G., your pavaises look exceptionally well made. The ten day wait period is well worth the outcome it seems. Well done my friend, well done.
Posts: 115 Location: Belgium
Fri 07 Jan, 2011 2:43 pm
i must say those pavaises really look amazing mike! i'm definetly intersted to see your pictures of how you carve out the middle!
Posts: 17
Sun 09 Jan, 2011 8:54 am
Thanks a lot that you enjoyed my work :)
Next time I when I will carve out middle pieces I will make some pictures. It is not so hard that it might to be. It needs just a lot of time.
Bet regards
Mike
Posts: 616 Location: Toronto, Canada
Sun 09 Jan, 2011 9:09 am
Mike G wrote: |
Thanks a lot that you enjoyed my work :)
Next time I when I will carve out middle pieces I will make some pictures. It is not so hard that it might to be. It needs just a lot of time.
Bet regards
Mike |
Do you use gouges
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=...at=1,41131
or
something like this scoop adze?
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=...at=1,41131
Posts: 17
Sun 09 Jan, 2011 10:34 am
Hello, both of them ( and some other tools )
But the scoop adze I just need at the start of the backpiece. Most of the work is done with a very sharp little axe, gouges,and a plane
Best regards
Mike
Posts: 616 Location: Toronto, Canada
Sun 09 Jan, 2011 6:44 pm
Thanks Mike!
I thought it might be a combination of gutter adze for the rough work and gouges for the finish. I haven't carved the centre post out on one of these yet but it is the logical solution. I'm tired of coopering 14thC
shields and am trying to learn more about Northern pavises. Thanks for your response!
Posts: 5 Location: Sweden
Thu 10 Feb, 2011 3:27 pm
Are there any finds or paintings of hand-held pavises from the end of the 14:cent?
Posts: 112 Location: Upper Silesia
Thu 10 Feb, 2011 11:41 pm
Polyptych Grudziądz (
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliptyk_Grudzi%C4%85dzki )
around 1400
Typical Y-shaped grip (see a fragment)
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Posts: 1
Thu 03 Mar, 2011 7:15 am
Mike G.
Wow! That's some amazing work! Question on the linseed oil finish though.
Is that boiled linseed oil or raw?
Posts: 17
Tue 10 May, 2011 11:23 am
Ben Holman wrote: |
Mike G.
Wow! That's some amazing work! Question on the linseed oil finish though.
Is that boiled linseed oil or raw? |
thank´s a lot ;-)
Both will work. But the boiled one dryed a little bit faster I think
Best regards
Mike
Posts: 115 Location: Belgium
Tue 10 May, 2011 2:10 pm
hey mike, any chance of you already having some pictures of how you carve out the middle bar?
cheers!
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