Hello, thanks for visiting my forum topic. :)

I recently purchased a can of "Break-Free CLP" sold under the winchester name at my local Wal-mart. Since it seemed highly recommended by so many people on this site, I decided to try it.

On the back of the can with the other various warnings is one that states to "...Avoid contact with skin or eyes..." and then later it tells you to wash skin or eyes for 15 minutes if you do make contact.

Does this warning only apply when your applying it as you spray it, or to after you've let it sit over night aswell? Since I could not find the squeeze bottle in my area I had to buy the spray can, does the squeeze bottle carry a similar warning?

I would'nt think people would use it if skin contact with it was dangerous even after it had sat around all night on your armour, but the warning kinda makes me worry about using it on stuff that lays around my room...

And since im talking about oiling armour...I might aswell ask a few basic questions about that since I have no experience in that area.

Just how much oil should I apply to armour? if I run my finger on my armour how much should come off on my finger?

Should I buff it in once i've got it on the armour?

Sorry for these basic questions but I am really not all that knowledgable in this area, thanks in advance for your help. :)

If skin contact with BreakFree is harmfull, then I am going to die.

Well its nice to know you guys don't think its a big issue, I was just worried that if I put it on my sword then half-sworded with it the next day my hands would turn red or something 15 minutes later...

Thanks for your input.

I was just searching the internet for stuff on Break-Free and found this...

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=17229928

I HIGHLY SUGGEST you read it if you use break free...some pretty odd stuff it can suposedly do to you...

Well irritation can all be in the dose, frequency of exposure, duration of exposure and the sensitivity to the product occurring which although a possibility may not be the same for everyone.

The animal testing may be extreme in that for a human it might correspond to taking daily baths in the stuff and not rinsing it off ?

On the other hand it would be prudent to avoid any contact when spraying it onto something and wash ones hands after.

The residual film left on the metal shouldn't be to much of a problem.

Just as an example I have had no apparent reactions to Breakfree but if I just sand rosewood the dust will make me break out in ugly red patches very quickly ! Allergic reactions can vary greatly from person to person.

I would worry more about excessive spraying in the air and breathing it in a closed space for long periods.

What doesn't kill you makes you rust proof. ;) :lol: (Joke: To paraphrase the saying " What doesn't kill you makes you stronger " ).

Well not that we shouldn't question or take seriously your concerns about the safe use of Breakfree over long periods of time, but if it was extremely toxic a lot of us would already be dead ! If I take too much time worrying about stuff like this I would be too scared to get up in the morning ! How safe is the use of air freshener for example ?

Yeah, I use the stuff by the gallon. Swords, knives, guns, you name it. Never noticed any ill effects....

... except insects seem to be attracted to it, land on the exposed, break-free-wet blades, and die....

Anyway. I just don't spray it directly into my eyes, or drink it straight, and I've had no problems.

But then, I'm the kinda guy who wishes they'd make a Hoppes #9 cologne....

:)

I know its gotten in my food. I spray it over my kitchen sink. Come to think of it I do all my gluing, gun bluing, oiling, etc... in the kitchen. I never wash my hands after using it, just wipe 'em off on my shirt. I always rubbed down my eating knives with break-free until I heard it was bad for you. Know I use olive oil to oil any food related item.
Z

It's not so much the skin irritation that i'm worried about, it's the immune system and liver dammage im concerned about...

I'm not sure rust proof armour is worth lessened disease resistance...

Then again those mice were sprayed with it every day for 90 days...it might be different if you just touch the dried stuff on your sword as opposed to mixing it with vodka and trying to make yourself rust proof...

Robert,

Break-Free is as dangerous as you allow it to be..
Attributable to Paracelsus (?) ... "All is toxic, the dose makes the poison." Of course this varies with conditions, sensitivity, etc. Have used the stuff, but Common Sense Bulletin #1 told me to be cautious. Many of the MSDS and other safety pubs are based on the assumption that we are all idiots.

Cheers,
Dan

have you seen the MSDS for water?

In 21 years of military service, I used probably a 55g drum of the stuff or more over time - and I never heard it was harmful nor suffered any ill-effects from it. It still use it to this day on my personal and duty firearms. Just don't drink it or anything stupid, and you will be fine.

Other petroleum based cleaners, preservatives, and chemicals have the same types of warning on them to negate liability in the case that something does happen to someone. I'd not worry about it.